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Bounce 30 May 2013 00:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by DragonByte Tech (Post 2424853)
It's only a security risk if someone has already broken the security on your server :p

Possibly aye but wont go into that, i'll ask about it, thanks, ive 5 DB Tech products so far :erm: installed and getting a bit busy down there lol:D

sticky 30 May 2013 00:19

You have to have a mod to merge all the copyright footers from your mods? Hmm...

DragonByte Tech 30 May 2013 00:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bounce (Post 2424855)
Possibly aye but wont go into that, i'll ask about it, thanks, ive 5 DB Tech products so far :erm: installed and getting a bit busy down there lol:D

That's what she said :p

Quote:

Originally Posted by sticky (Post 2424856)
You have to have a mod to merge all the copyright footers from your mods? Hmm...

Some of our most loyal customers / users requested it after they installed quite a few of our mods that appear on multiple pages, like Bounce there did :)

Since not everyone can afford a Branding Free licence, instead of telling people to suck it up we decided to provide a way for people to condense their footers to either a direct list of mods or one single link back to our site with the list of their mods displayed there.

That way, others who are interested in what mods a site runs still have a way of finding out which mods they want to try out for free :)


Fillip

LLent 30 May 2013 14:08

just curious why does this have to be linked to the db server couldnt you have a page within your forum that has all the links of what you installed your not getting rid of the links but just from the footer ...

DragonByte Tech 30 May 2013 14:49

The reason why it has to be linked to the DBTech server is so that it can fetch an updated list of modifications :)

Basically, this mod is a "set-it-and-forget-it" kinda thing, if you install it first and then install a new DBTech mod that we released a month later, within 24 hours the new copyright will be merged automatically without a need to install an update of this mod :)


Fillip

LLent 30 May 2013 16:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by DragonByte Tech (Post 2424938)
The reason why it has to be linked to the DBTech server is so that it can fetch an updated list of modifications :)

Basically, this mod is a "set-it-and-forget-it" kinda thing, if you install it first and then install a new DBTech mod that we released a month later, within 24 hours the new copyright will be merged automatically without a need to install an update of this mod :)


Fillip


when you install a mod without copyright management mod it automatically puts that link on the footer so what i am saying is why cant we have a page on our fourms that this does the same thing you click on details and it takes you to a page with all the links we have installed basically this is removing the links from the footer and cleaning it up but i would rather have a separate page on my forum still have the links and my users can click them as before as if they where in the footer

LLent 01 Jun 2013 03:10

well is it possible to get a separate page with all our links on one's forum instead of linking to db i mean the links will on that page is what i mean

Christos Teriakis 01 Jun 2013 07:26

It's at least unfair (not say illegal) to include your copyright in pages that are not really powered from any of your mods. To include a copyright in a page, needs the page's output to contain your code. eg Why if someone has installed your Quizz mod why you're showing your copyright in my Classifieds, or Auction, or Reviews etc etc pages? The fact that there is your mod name before says nothing as you don't have the right to show any of your links in that pages.

In anycase, I'll appreciate if you modify your code and exclude your copyright for pages where "THIS_SCRIPT" has any of the values below:
  • ads
  • adsusercp
  • adsmodcp
  • auc
  • aucusercp
  • aucmodcp
  • reviews
  • revusercp
  • revmodcp
  • extrapages
Thank you

DragonByte Tech 03 Jun 2013 19:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christos Teriakis (Post 2425189)
It's at least unfair (not say illegal) to include your copyright in pages that are not really powered from any of your mods. To include a copyright in a page, needs the page's output to contain your code. eg Why if someone has installed your Quizz mod why you're showing your copyright in my Classifieds, or Auction, or Reviews etc etc pages? The fact that there is your mod name before says nothing as you don't have the right to show any of your links in that pages.

In anycase, I'll appreciate if you modify your code and exclude your copyright for pages where "THIS_SCRIPT" has any of the values below:
  • ads
  • adsusercp
  • adsmodcp
  • auc
  • aucusercp
  • aucmodcp
  • reviews
  • revusercp
  • revmodcp
  • extrapages
Thank you

Can I ask what laws you feel our copyright notices contravene? Placing a global copyright footer is in no way illegal.

Unfortunately trying to create rules that will exclude certain pages while not accidentally excluding others (for instance "ads" or "reviews" are very common words/scripts which may be used in modifications WE create as well) is not practical.

We inform users of the nature of our copyright links (e.g global) and they agree to these terms when they install our work.

If a user wishes to display a copyright footer on their own website on a page that happens to also display your work, they are well within their rights to do so. Please be aware that accusations of criminal/illegal activity are very serious and should not be made offhandedly in an attempt to damage our reputation. We would appreciate it if you refrain from such baseless and libelous accusations in future.

Please respect the right for webmasters to have any copyright footers they wish on any pages they wish.

Kind Regards,

Iain Kidd
Managing Director,
DragonByte Technologies

LLent 03 Jun 2013 20:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by DragonByte Tech (Post 2425588)
The summary page have to be hosted on our site, otherwise the performance of this plugin would severely decrease - we would have to send a lot more data back to your site regarding all our plugins.

Additionally, we minimize the amount of copyright displayed on your site with this mod for aesthetic reasons, but having links leading back to our site is a pretty central pillar of our business model, so we won't be able to fulfil that request unfortunately :(


Fillip

sadly i dont like this mod i dont want to be linked directly to your site server there has to be something else then you can do to clean up the footer i mean i like the details link but i cant see why there cant be a page with all the links in it that i have installed by just clicking details and not going to your site ...

unless there is something that can be done different this mod wont get installed on my site unfortunately

DragonByte Tech 03 Jun 2013 20:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by LLent (Post 2425606)
sadly i dont like this mod i dont want to be linked directly to your site server there has to be something else then you can do to clean up the footer i mean i like the details link but i cant see why there cant be a page with all the links in it that i have installed by just clicking details and not going to your site ...

unless there is something that can be done different this mod wont get installed on my site unfortunately

The other option is to buy the Global Branding free mod from our site, that will permanently remove the copyright footer from all present and future mods we have released or will release :)


Fillip

LLent 03 Jun 2013 20:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by DragonByte Tech (Post 2425608)
The other option is to buy the Global Branding free mod from our site, that will permanently remove the copyright footer from all present and future mods we have released or will release :)


Fillip


Nah thats ok i do know that is available and quite expensive just to remove your links

again you need to come up with a better alternative

Christos Teriakis 03 Jun 2013 21:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by DragonByte Tech (Post 2425607)
You are asking us to spend dozens of man hours customizing

I'll start thinking that you (who is responding) have no idea about coding. Is easy as 1-2-3 and does not needs more than 2 minutes.

1.- Just add the names that I wrote in an array. eg

Block Disabled:      (Update License Status)  
Suspended or Unlicensed Members Cannot View Code.

2.- Add the code below:

Block Disabled:      (Update License Status)  
Suspended or Unlicensed Members Cannot View Code.

In any case don't waste your time anymore. As long as you didn't said if it's fair or not (this was my original post), I'll follow your steps. Day by day I'll start releasing totally free mods like the ones that you're selling. In addition all will be brand free.

Community should be happy. What about you? Keep an eye in the new releases during this week.

Cheers
Christos Teriakis

PS: Sorry but there is no Managing Director in my side, that's why I added only my name, something that will follows me for life, while that "Managing Director" don't know how long should be stay under your name. Because "no sales... no managers..."

DragonByte Tech 03 Jun 2013 21:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by LLent (Post 2425613)
Nah thats ok i do know that is available and quite expensive just to remove your links

again you need to come up with a better alternative

Thanks for the feedback. If we come up with anything we will update the mod.

Regards,

Iain Kidd
Managing Director

Zachery 04 Jun 2013 07:05

So, if you don't like their addons, don't use them?
If you really like their addons, but have an issue with their copyrights, purchase branding free?

I don't get what the problem is here.


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