[SwollenCranium]

Whoa ...

" How quickly does Enthusify fund the seller?

Enthusify funds a seller fourteen (14) days after a buyer purchases the seller's item. This escrow period helps protect buyers and sellers. "



Yeah .. good luck with that.

[Enthusify]

Originally Posted by SwollenCranium

Yeah .. good luck with (14 day escrow).

SwollenCranium - Thanks for the feedback. We had to start somewhere in version 1 of this vBulletin classifieds plugin. The 14 day escrow was the most happy medium. Some of our beta partners do a decent number of international transactions and for them, 14 days isn't quite enough. Nevertheless, you are not alone in your desire for something other than a 14 day escrow. An upcoming release will include a mechanism for the buyer and seller to confirm the transaction is complete and successful in order to allow the release of funds as soon as possible as opposed to a fixed number of days from the date of purchase.

Please keep the feedback coming. Version 1 was architected with the guidance and advice of many forum owners and members. We have an exciting product roadmap ahead. Each bit of feedback helps shapes that roadmap.

[nhawk]

You might want to mark this properly.

1) Plugin: This modification uses the plugin or product system.
2) External: This modification pulls in content from 3rd party sites.
3) File Additions: This modification includes new files to upload.

Even though it is in the description, I'm not sure how to alert everyone that you have to pay to use this mod.

[Enthusify]

Originally Posted by nhawk

You might want to mark this properly.
1) Plugin: This modification uses the plugin or product system.
2) External: This modification pulls in content from 3rd party sites.
3) File Additions: This modification includes new files to upload.
Even though it is in the description, I'm not sure how to alert everyone that you have to pay to use this mod.

Thanks for the note. To the best of my knowledge, the marks are assigned by the moderators of vB.org. I'll alert someone here to update the marks.

As for your comment that "you have to pay to use this mod." That isn't exactly true. The plugin is free. The plugin actually generates revenue for the forum owner. The plugin includes payment processing components. Use of the payment processing components do incur credit card processing and other fees that are charged to the seller (not the forum owner). In fact, Enthusify splits the fees income with the forum owner. The plugin can be a source of new revenue for forum owners who wish to implement it in that way. Some forum owners choose to waive their share of fees which can reduce the fees a seller incurs when he/she successfully sells an item to a buyer.

[nhawk]

Originally Posted by Enthusify

Thanks for the note. To the best of my knowledge, the marks are assigned by the moderators of vB.org. I'll alert someone here to update the marks.

As for your comment that "you have to pay to use this mod." That isn't exactly true. The plugin is free. The plugin actually generates revenue for the forum owner. The plugin includes payment processing components. Use of the payment processing components do incur credit card processing and other fees that are charged to the seller (not the forum owner). In fact, Enthusify splits the fees income with the forum owner. The plugin can be a source of new revenue for forum owners who wish to implement it in that way. Some forum owners choose to waive their share of fees which can reduce the fees a seller incurs when he/she successfully sells an item to a buyer.

Look at 'Edit Settings' in the first post. That is where the marks are set.

I guess the 10% fee when someone sells something isn't a payment of sorts. Symantics is all it is.

It boils down to a commercial product being distributed for free to make you money. It has no 'lite' function that avoids any fees to the person that uses it.

[SwollenCranium]

Originally Posted by Enthusify

Some forum owners

Other than my initial skepticism about finance (who isn't a bit skeptical about money making plans these days?) I'm intrigued by the plugin and would like to see it in production environment.

Do you have a link to a site already running this?

[nhawk]

Don't get me wrong, I'm intrigued by it also. But there isn't a 'try before you pay' option anywhere. It would have been better if people could use it with their own PayPal account (or whatever other payment system they use), and then as an option use it with the escrow account and 10% fee.

[Enthusify]

Originally Posted by nhawk

Look at 'Edit Settings' in the first post. That is where the marks are set. It boils down to a commercial product being distributed for free to make you money. It has no 'lite' function that avoids any fees to the person that uses it.

Thanks! I don't know why I missed that settings option no matter how hard I was hunting for it. I updated the markings.

Yes - this is a commercial product that is being distributed for free. I would put this mod in the same camp as services like VigLink or Post Release - vBulletin enhancements that are free and designed to generate revenue for the forum owner and the mod author.

[Enthusify]

Originally Posted by nhawk

But there isn't a 'try before you pay' option anywhere. It would have been better if people could use it with their own PayPal account (or whatever other payment system they use), and then as an option use it with the escrow account and 10% fee.

From the perspective of forum owners, you can try the plugin. Simply download it, install it, and contact enthusify for the required security key and marketplace id. Enthusify can point your freshly installed plugin to our test environment and give you a demo credit card number to walk through a transaction end-to-end. You can install the plugin and hide it from your members.

From the perspective of sellers, they could use it with their own PayPal account (or whatever other payment system they use), and then as an option use it with the escrow account and 10% fee. They would simply need to indicate in their listing that they prefer the buyer to pay them through their preferred method. I think the point you may be making is that, in version 1, a seller can't 'turn off' the embedded payment option. But a seller can direct a buyer to pay him/her through a method other than the included payment option.

[likaweb]

Thanks

where is this code Token??
------------------------------------ ----
Secret string of text used to generate authentication tokens.

[You will be given this as part of your install package.]

[nukinfuts29]

I love the look and setup of the system. I would use it in a second if it did not regulate my users transactions, 14 days is insanity. It doesn't protect anybody really because most people, like me, are never going to ship a single thing without payment.

[Enthusify]

Originally Posted by likaweb

where is this code Token?? Secret string of text used to generate authentication tokens.

We issue each forum a unique marketplace ID and a security key. Simply email me at: [email protected] with your forum URL and I'll reply with a marketplace ID and security key

[Enthusify]

Originally Posted by nukinfuts29

14 days is insanity. It doesn't protect anybody really because most people, like me, are never going to ship a single thing without payment.

On the topic of your concern about the 14 day escrow... As I wrote up above, "The 14 day escrow was the most happy medium. Some of our beta partners do a decent number of international transactions and for them, 14 days isn't quite enough. Nevertheless, you are not alone in your desire for something other than a 14 day escrow. An upcoming release will include a mechanism for the buyer and seller to confirm the transaction is complete and successful in order to allow the release of funds as soon as possible as opposed to a fixed number of days from the date of purchase."

You expressed concern about shipping in absence of a payment. The included escrow service should address that concern. The Enthusify plugin notifies a seller when a fully qualified payment is received. Thus, when the system notifies you that your item sold, you are shipping with confidence that a payment is standing by in escrow for you.

[Big-Pete]

Been looking for a classiifeds for ages, but we only really want our members to sell to other members and also offer services such as car tuning etc.. Not sure if this pluigin is for us as it looks more like a shop than a classifieds listing... But we'll give it a shot..