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Old 02 Mar 2011, 20:53
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Originally Posted by Videx View Post
This thread is straying all over the place for no really good reason. The OP's point ("i posted a thread a week ago. i posted another thread almost 2 days ago, replied to 10 or more and couldn't even get a single reply to any questions or inquiries in any of my posts.") is often asked in different ways, but the answers are usually the same:
  1. I didn't respond because I didn't know the answer.
  2. RTFM.
  3. I've seen that question asked and answered so many times I'm sick of seeing it; learn to search before you ask.
All the philosophy about plugins and forums and past members won't change those answers. And these days most of us won't dare to use answers 2 or 3 for fear our response will be misinterpreted as hostile.

That is caused by conditioning from the past years. It seems people get lazier the more time they spend here.

Originally Posted by BirdOPrey5 View Post
I know when I'm searching I find unanswered questions from 2006, 2008, and recently- so some questions have always gone unanswered over the years- not new.

And probably for very good reasons.

Originally Posted by TheLastSuperman View Post
What's happened?

IMO plain and simple... many need to learn the definition of the word TACT, in the second sense - http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tact


I do agree that tact is a fine line that seems to get crossed now and then. You have 2 main types of coders here: those that remember when they were first learning to code, and those who can't remember a time they couldn't code.
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Old 02 Mar 2011, 21:21
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Originally Posted by Boofo View Post
I do agree that tact is a fine line that seems to get crossed now and then. You have 2 main types of coders here: those that remember when they were first learning to code, and those who can't remember a time they couldn't code.
Very well said and I couldn't agree more!
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Old 02 Mar 2011, 22:42
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Whats happened;

1.) Facebook and twitter has captured a lot of the micro-blogging (status update/tweets etc.) market and grown it in a different direction. Forums remain strong but more so in niche areas and are probably going through a bit of an identity crisis. Certainly in my opinion vB4 isn't quite sure right now whether its a forum, a blog, a cms, a profile/microblog, a social network or a mobile app. Because these were all internet trends at various times and vbulletin incorporated them (usually about a year down the line). But the end result works in a way that doesn't always unify each of them very well. It's a problem for all forum software not just vB.

2.) Web users have over the past 10 years slowly transitioned away from enthusiasts towards casual consumers and continue to do so. Not every casual consumer wants to spend hours participating in a forum helping to build up its content. If the content isn't already there they F-off somewhere else till they find what they want. This makes getting a forum off the ground quite a challenging enviornment these days. Gone are the days of "make the site and they will come".

3.) Some coders who used to work on websites and plugins have since transitioned to more profitable and/or developing areas like apps. vBulletin is a complex platform that doesn't immiediately make sense even to seasoned coders and the loss of some of the experienced hands has made the transition harder than it might otherwise have been.

4.) As vbulletin has grown and branched out lots of people have used it in different ways. It puts jelsoft in a position where moving forward in a decisive direction is very hard, because its bound to upset someones vision of what a forum should be.
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Old 03 Mar 2011, 00:34
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2.) Web users have over the past 10 years slowly transitioned away from enthusiasts towards casual consumers and continue to do so. Not every casual consumer wants to spend hours participating in a forum helping to build up its content. If the content isn't already there they F-off somewhere else till they find what they want. This makes getting a forum off the ground quite a challenging enviornment these days. Gone are the days of "make the site and they will come".
Its more then just difficult, its almost close to impossible getting a forum off the
ground if you are in a niche that is already saturated. My forum has been up for at
least 6+ months, and I have spent a ton of money on advertising, article marketing,
paid posters, vb, vbseo, other paid mods....and when i look back, the only posts
that I really have are from the paid posters and that is about it....then I ask myself,
well, why would they want to come to my forum when they can go to forums that
have 1million+ posts...hell I would...so I am really in a catch 22....

then I have to ask
myself is this really worth it...for money? hell no...one of the first members that I did get
,maybe about 2 months ago, he has been the only regular member to my forum, until
the other day he starts insulting me, and telling me that my forum will never go anywhere...
ok, I think this dude is one of charlie sheen friends, maybe he is on drugs/crack/cola....
and I am pretty sure he only comes to my forum because he knows that I may buy some
of his themes/coding/graphics, etc...its funny how people will come around when you are
buying, but when the money dries up, opps, "I gotta be someplace else now...."

nobody really contributes anything to the forum. They have no problems creating self-serving
posts with 5 links within a very short post, then they complain when I remove them....
its like "Why are you removing my spam dude...."

What was I thinking....

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Old 03 Mar 2011, 01:11
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And that is why I set up my forum to what I want to see, without having to worry about what anyone else says about it. Once you start relying on it for an income, then the game changes and you have to start answering to others. Like most jobs, they aren't nearly as fun or rewarding as a hobby you enjoy participating in.
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Old 03 Mar 2011, 01:43
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Originally Posted by Boofo View Post
And that is why I set up my forum to what I want to see, without having to worry about what anyone else says about it. Once you start relying on it for an income, then the game changes and you have to start answering to others. Like most jobs, they aren't nearly as fun or rewarding as a hobby you enjoy participating in.
I am no where to relying on my forum to make money. I have put much more
into my forum then I expect to even see within the next 5 years, and seeing there
are forums that are already rooted in my market, then it could be much
longer; however, I would appreciate some traffic, and for people to repsect
me, and not jump down my throat because I will not dance to their tune....

I knew for a fact when I setup the forum, it would not be for money; however,
if i had done this like 10 years ago, then maybe it would be a different story....

I did ban the member, I will not tolerate or allow others to belittle or disrespect me.
Its not like he contributed anything to the forum, he only posted links to themes
that would have benefited him if he had gotten any traffic via my forum....

did i go to far in banning him? What would you do if one of your members comes
to you, insulting you, calling your forum trash, and so on....and he expects me
to buy his themes now? He must have been on some high end pot or something....
You do not do that to potential buyers, he is like killing his own business...

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Old 03 Mar 2011, 10:53
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I honestly have not seen an issue with the site just the users on it, most of you have already commented about TACT and the way regular member expect rather than would like...

For me i run an ever growing gaming site that needs to keep evolving and without you coders i am done.. I am guilty for just taking and not saying thanks often enough and from this point on i shall make it a priority, maybe others should follow suit..
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Old 04 Mar 2011, 21:49
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Most people have moved on to less* "buggy" forum software's

*small print
less meaning 900 less or more lmfao
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Old 24 Mar 2011, 12:43
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It's the cycles that forum (and other) sites go through. The new trends of social networking lend themselves to forums just as well if you can integrate things smoothly.

Some coders that do it for a living have gone towards Wordpress or other forum software and it is where they can make money for themselves and their families. Can't fault them for that.

Personally, I run sites on both vBulletin and xenForo for different reasons.

You shouldn't put your eggs all in one basket, right
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Old 26 Mar 2011, 22:00
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Originally Posted by MagicThemeParks View Post
It's the cycles that forum (and other) sites go through. The new trends of social networking lend themselves to forums just as well if you can integrate things smoothly.

Some coders that do it for a living have gone towards Wordpress or other forum software and it is where they can make money for themselves and their families. Can't fault them for that.

Personally, I run sites on both vBulletin and xenForo for different reasons.

You shouldn't put your eggs all in one basket, right
I've done the same.. though I sold all my vB licences but one... And that is because my biggest forum uses vB and I don't see XF a viabile option to replace it with do to poor hacks on the market.

My other smaller forums have been converted to XF and I don't mind them. BTW I am using vB 3.8.7 not 4. I still think vB4 is terrible and a resource hog.

But I agree with you.. it's not always best to get ride of everything, though it depends on preference too. I have a connection with vB 3 series still. But I'm sure slowly I will adapt to the XF series.
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