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Old 03 Feb 2009, 20:24
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Makes me sad to be british :-(

The UK is rapidly becoming a big brother state, eyes are upon everyone and now we are penalised for such stupid and trival things, Today i read in the papers a story which i just had to share with you, to make you see whats happened to this once great country.

The so called "Do Gooders" are turning the country upsidedown with their crackpot ideas and rules, Take a read of this and you'll know why i'm angry

Nurse Caroline Petrie has been suspended and could even be struck off.
What was her offence?
Did she turn up drunk?
Did she dispense the wrong medicine or forget to empty a bedpan?
Was she knocking out prescription drugs to the local pusher?
Perhaps she was guilty of neglect, of deliberate cruelty, or of practising a bit of freelance euthanasia.

No. Her 'crime' was to offer to say a prayer for one old lady on the ward. It's what we used to call an act of Christian charity.

But that was enough to bring her to the attention of the 'diversity' nazis at the North Somerset Primary Care Trust.

The next day she got a call from her 'co-ordinator' telling her not to report for work and informing her that her disgraceful behaviour was the subject of a disciplinary hearing.
Mrs Petrie, a committed Christian since she was aged ten when her mother died of breast cancer, routinely offers to pray for her patients' speedy recovery. Many of them find it a great comfort.

In this case, 79-year-old May Phippen said: thanks, but no thanks. No offence given or taken. But when Mrs Phippen mentioned it to another nurse, all hell broke loose.
Mrs Petrie had previously been warned about her conduct after she asked a male patient if he would like a prayer card. He thought nothing of it, but his 'carer' threw a wobbly and reported her to hospital authorities.

Administrator Alison Withers wrote to her: 'As a nurse you are required to uphold the reputation of your profession. Your NMC (Nursing Midwifery Council) code states that "you must demonstrate a personal and professional commitment to equality and diversity", and "you must not use your professional status to promote causes that are not related to health".'

She didn't explain how innocently volunteering to pray for a patient brought the game into disrepute or how it compromised Mrs Petrie's discharge of her professional duties.
If I was in hospital, I'd be flattered if someone wanted to pray for my recovery. It wouldn't matter to me what God they believed in.

As far as I'm concerned, they could draft in a Red Indian to perform a raindance at the end of my bed if it meant I got home sooner. I wouldn't care less about my nurse's religious belief, provided it didn't involve blood-letting and human sacrifice

The power of prayer has long been acknowledged as part of the healing process. That's why hospitals have chaplains and there are Bibles in bedside cabinets.
All over the world, nuns double as nurses. So what is so heinous about Mrs Petrie praying for her patients?

The truth is that Christianity forms no part of the 'diversity' agenda.

The NHS, like every single one of our institutions, long ago fell to the Guardianistas, who pursue their agenda with a deranged zeal.

While they genuflect to Islam and 'respect' every oddball religion from paganism to devil-worship, they despise Britain's Judeo-Christian tradition and use every extent of their powers to crush it. It's only Christianity which is singled out for such vilification, as with the airport worker suspended for wearing a crucifix and the devout Christian registrar threatened with the sack for refusing to perform homosexual marriages.

Just imagine how they would have reacted had Mrs Petrie been a Muslim offering to pray to Allah for a patient's recovery. Anyone who objected would be accused of a 'hate crime' and dumped in a skip at the back of the mortuary.

What's really chilling about this case is that neither of the patients complained. It was only when news reached the ears of another nurse and a 'carer' that the full inquisition swung into action.

What kind of sick society have we become where self-righteous sneaks can ruin someone's career?

That this happened in North Somerset and not in one of the barmier inner-city boroughs only serves to illustrate the depths to which the Guardianistas have insinuated themselves into the system.

This is what the small print at the bottom of all those public sector job adverts means in reality. 'Diversity' is just another way of persecuting decent people trying to go about their daily business. This is 'investing in diversity' in action. What else do you think all those equality managers do all day?

The most intolerant people in Britain are always those who preach 'tolerance' most loudly.
How does victimising Mrs Petrie square with not promoting 'causes that are not related to health'? Isn't that exactly what the hospital authorities themselves are doing?
Why should Mrs Petrie, or anyone else, have to 'demonstrate a personal commitment to equality and diversity'? She can harbour whatever beliefs she likes, provided it doesn't interfere with her professionalism.

There's only one word to describe hatchet-faced harridans like administrator Alison Withers and the tell-tale creeps trying to get a dedicated nurse such as Caroline Petrie sacked for dispensing a little Christian kindness.

Sick.
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Old 03 Feb 2009, 20:32
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Become a robot and don't give a crap about the patient...

This whole world sucks.
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Old 03 Feb 2009, 20:36
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I voted yes because I hate religion in all it's formats. However I'll refrain from posting what I really want to say about this little episode because that's the way this country is going.

I will say though, joining the EU was britains biggest mistake before long there won't be any britains in britain. I would object the nurse saying a prayer for me but I wouldn't report her for it.
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Old 03 Feb 2009, 20:39
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I hate religion in all it's formats.
I agree with that also...and overly religious people scare me haha

But I think this women was generally just trying to be nice...and maybe just care for her patient.
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Old 03 Feb 2009, 20:39
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Become a robot and don't give a crap about the patient...

This whole world sucks.
I agree Kev, But its getting worse, We've become 2nd class citizens, or thats how we're looked upon, The UK is the worlds leader for crackpot rules and new laws, Did you know, that after the 9/11 plane crash, the UK brought in tough new anti terror laws, The local councils are using these laws to spy on people putting the wrong type of waste paper in the wrong bin, and if caught you get a Criminal Record and a 400 Fine.

Nice to see the Anti Terror Laws being used effectively in the UK, So sad
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Old 03 Feb 2009, 20:40
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I agree Kev, But its getting worse, We've become 2nd class citizens, or thats how we're looked upon, The UK is the worlds leader for crackpot rules and new laws, Did you know, that after the 9/11 plane crash, the UK brought in tough new anti terror laws, The local councils are using these laws to spy on people putting the wrong type of waste paper in the wrong bin, and if caught you get a Criminal Record and a 400 Fine.

Nice to see the Anti Terror Laws being used effectively in the UK, So sad
Pretty much the same as here...but I think most people are just to lazy to up hold the laws
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Old 03 Feb 2009, 20:42
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Originally Posted by Shelley_c View Post
I voted yes because I hate religion in all it's formats. However I'll refrain from posting what I really want to say about this little episode because that's the way this country is going.

I will say though, joining the EU was britains biggest mistake before long there won't be any britains in britain. I would object the nurse saying a prayer for me but I wouldn't report her for it.
I agree with you Shelley, I'm not religious, But if someone want to say a prayer for me its cool, I won't be offened by it in fact i'll see it as a compliment that someone actually wants to go out of their way for me
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Old 03 Feb 2009, 20:44
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I agree with you Shelley, I'm not religious, But if someone want to say a prayer for me its cool, I won't be offened by it in fact i'll see it as a compliment that someone actually wants to go out of their way for me
Exactly. Thats kinda the way I see it. Religious people still scare me though
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Old 03 Feb 2009, 20:45
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I believe that also, Like I said, Her beliefs are hers and she is the kind of person that would help anyone out whether it's in prayer or other means. Quite frankly, the nhs and local dr surgeries needs more people like her. It's a shame that some people are willing to do so much but can't on the offchance they are offending (which is really the agenda here) some other persons (higher up the food chains) religious beliefs.

It's beyond getting angry over, it's been happening for years and the signs of this were present long before then.
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Old 03 Feb 2009, 20:45
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Exactly. Thats kinda the way I see it. Religious people still scare me though
Don't worry Buddy, I'll say a prayer for you tonight
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Old 03 Feb 2009, 20:51
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I agree with you Shelley, I'm not religious, But if someone want to say a prayer for me its cool, I won't be offened by it in fact i'll see it as a compliment that someone actually wants to go out of their way for me
I wouldn't be offended by it, I just wouldn't warrant anyone saying a prayer for me. But the nurses dismissal is wrong no matter how you look at it or how the people decided the outcome display it to the public.
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You know who's more annoying than religious nut cases? Anti-religious nut cases. This is saying a lot, as I have met and know of quite a few nutsos (look where I'm from)

There's almost no such thing as being a good samaritan anymore. I called the police a few times on a woman in my office who continuously parked in the handicapped zone, and I got lectured about it by my boss because she felt the need to +++++ about it to him.

That's a very small example, but it's something that makes me feel if I do a good deed to others, I in return get punished.

That being said, if I were religious, I don't think I would ever ask someone that question. Religion to me is something that should be a very personal matter, and nobodies business but your own.
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Old 03 Feb 2009, 21:03
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hahah ...live and let die...
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Ah Shelley, you are the 1
I'm against it, but if the praying came as a good intention doesn't matter...
so legally doesn't have a ground for suspension

p.s. thought you were sad of being a Briton because of the teeth
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Old 03 Feb 2009, 22:34
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I voted yes because I hate religion in all it's formats. However I'll refrain from posting what I really want to say about this little episode because that's the way this country is going.
Dude, yes, dude!
The nurse did what she thought was the fittest thing to do in such a situation...
Why should she be punished by that?

If i can recall, the American Dollar is printed with "In God we trust."
So, the state does find God as real.
So, it's not like it's some cult or something, it's simply what a christian would do.

I'm not going to blame you for being an atheist (if you are), but it simply doesn't sound right to punish someone for doing something that almost everybody else believes in, right?
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