[In Omnibus]

Originally Posted by TheLastSuperman

What use would it of been? They paid Paul to remove the hook system... yes he was tasked with that so unless you wanted to do manual file edits when vB5 first hit each and every upgrade and do your own custom mods w/o ease-of-use hook system it truly didn't matter back then. The ship never sailed, it sunk and now we're so far behind on having anything remotely close to the sheer number of vB3/4 plugins available that vB5 with all it's effort will never be to me (personally speaking) what vB3 or 4 ever was in their worst forms.

Progress has been made sure, tons of improvements to vB5 and it's nice now but it's still standing in modification quicksand.

It's all hindsight at this point but maybe a few more third party coders would have stuck around had they understood the API documentation. I realize they're all experienced with and used to PHP hooks but it's an outdated coding method compared with API apps. The intention of vB5 was correct. The implementation left much to be desired.

[SaN-DeeP]

Originally Posted by escape2k

Hi,

I know there are for sure not many people who can understand why i want to download vbulletin 2 and mods/styles in 2017 but i want to.

When i buy a new License is it still possible to download the latest Version of vbulletin 2 and here at vbulletin.org the plugins and styles for this Version?

Someone with License told me he can not download from the Archive.
Do i have to buy a original vb2 license for that?

I tought with a vbulletin License i can download all Versions of vbulletin and so also all mods.
Please help me thanks and yes i know what i do.

A straight no, looking at your join date.. age old users should move ahead.. rather then making new accounts..

[BirdOPrey5]

I would say not to email VB Support, nothing we can do about it. Perhaps post on the Licensed CUstomers Feedback Forum on vBulletin.com and say you want access to old mods on vb.org. No, it won't change, but I always thought losing access to the early 3.x mods (3.5, 3.6, 3.7) especially was arbitrary and unnecessary. Many still worked on 3.8.x at the time.

[Stingray27]

You can still access 3.6 & 3.7 mods, its only 3.5 or earlier that are not available.

Almost anythigng released for 3.5 was duplicated in 3.6 onwards as well, by the developers at the time.

[BirdOPrey5]

Originally Posted by Stingray27

You can still access 3.6 & 3.7 mods, its only 3.5 or earlier that are not available.

Almost anythigng released for 3.5 was duplicated in 3.6 onwards as well, by the developers at the time.

It would appear someone has restored access to 3.6 and 3.7 mods, though they are still listed as being the "Archives." When they were first archived you could not download the mod files.

[escape2k]

"So they all went to XenForo, where they can code like it's the year 2000. LOL."

Dont know Xenforo but back in 2000 coding was more fun than it is now on this bulk and complex systems.

Look at vb2 its so easy to use and modify.
Then look on vb4 or 5.

[Paul M]

Originally Posted by BirdOPrey5

It would appear someone has restored access to 3.6 and 3.7 mods, though they are still listed as being the "Archives." When they were first archived you could not download the mod files.

They have always been available, I specifically wrote the code to allow it when they were archived, and put out a slightly different message.

Originally Posted by escape2k

Look at vb2 its so easy to use and modify.
Then look on vb4 or 5.

vB4 is easy to modify (easier than XF) and just the same as vB3 - however, vB5 is a whole different story.

[Mark.B]

Originally Posted by escape2k

"So they all went to XenForo, where they can code like it's the year 2000. LOL."

Dont know Xenforo but back in 2000 coding was more fun than it is now on this bulk and complex systems.

Look at vb2 its so easy to use and modify.
Then look on vb4 or 5.

People want to switch to XenForo because vBulletin won't support software written in 2001?

I sometimes can't quite comprehend the stuff I read sometimes.

[thetechgenius]

Why vB2, and not vBulletin 4? vB4 is the best, in my opinion anyway.

Like others have said, its not just about the security issues in the latest PHP7. vB2 wont even install in PHP7. But thats just not the security issues, its the entire vB2 framework, its how vB2 is coded.

You would have to rewrite most, if not ALL of the vB2 PHP files, for it to even install in PHP7. Then if you get it to install in PHP7, im sure you will run into problem after problem after problem after install. PHP had so many changes over the years, its crazy.

Then after you rewrite most or ALL of vB2, at that point most of the code wouldn't even be vBulletin's code, it would be yours. lol.

If you want to go down that route, your better off Coding and Building your own Forum Software from the ground up, for PHP7.

Thats just my two sense, good luck. To be honest, vB4 would be a lot better, and a lot more stable, with a lot more features then vB2.