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Old 24 May 2006, 20:50
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Music influence survey

Informal, not a poll...open for debate and discussion. Thats what this thread is intended to be. The question I ask is, "would you consider any music/artist/bands from the last 25 years to have had or may have the same lasting influence on society and new artists as the rock legends from the 60's". I don't know alot about the music from the last 10 years, but submit that bands like The Police, The Clash, The Ramones and perhaps even U2 have had similar influence as artists like The Beatles, Doors, Stones, The Grateful Dead, The Who, etc. Look forward to the responses
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Old 24 May 2006, 21:10
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Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith, Black Sabbath, AC/DC, Kiss - look at the metal/rock genre today and you'll hear snippets of all of them in there somewhere - be it music, dress or attitude!
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Old 25 May 2006, 19:48
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I have to say that I can't see any bands from the last 25 years having the same kind of effect on music that groups like the Doors, Led Zepplin, The Beatles and others have had. Sure, the Clash, U2 and a few others have made an impact, but not even close to the impact that the aforementioned bands made on music in their time.
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Old 25 May 2006, 19:50
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Marilyn Manson is probably one of the few who has had a big influence in recent years - his concept changes with every album he releases.
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Old 25 May 2006, 19:57
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Originally Posted by Azhrialilu
Marilyn Manson is probably one of the few who has had a big influence in recent years - his concept changes with every album he releases.
Alice Cooper and Ozzie Osborne both did it first and did it better than Marilyn Manson ever could. He is just a pathetic copycat.
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Old 25 May 2006, 19:58
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LOL Alice and Ozzy are wonderful, I adore them both. Marilyn Manson is misunderstood by many though - he's not quite the copycat people assume him to be.
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Old 27 May 2006, 05:19
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Is this limited to rock or any music genre? I ask because unlike the 60's and 70's when rock dominated, at least for the past 15 years, rap is the most influential music of today.
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Old 27 May 2006, 05:24
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RAP is not considered music in my book, it would be considered talking or shouting ignorant crap to me.
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Old 27 May 2006, 05:24
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i like big butts and i cannot lie...all these other brothers cant deny...lol. hmm....not really into rock bands or whatnot....but, raps gonna be around for alllllllllong time.

and in response to boofo^^. lol, why u think that? its actually a form of poetry...these guys u hear on the tv and radio are garbage, i mean some song are good, most are bad...but if you listened to underground hiphop, id think you'd be impressed.
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Old 27 May 2006, 06:19
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Rap is influenced from the days of the funk to the blues and even centuries before that. It was the first form of vocal music (for any history buffs). It is based on poetry as Scrolls mentioned. However, the same with any other genre of music, there is good and bad rap.

Most of what people hear is from the mainstream. I also think that most rap of today is quite pathetic and gives the legimate rappers and DJ's a bad name. Yet to say that all rap is "crap" is erroneous and often comes from a limited understanding, appreciation and exposure to what it's all about.

Back in the day rap was about having fun. It was feel good music. Any talk of battles/beefs remained on the stage between vocalists known as MC's. The DJ's were the conductors of the show which is often lost with today's rap. "Booty dancing", while I like Miami Bass and southern party rap (e.g., Atlanta), the girls were never a part of the Hip-Hop culture, which rap is a part of. It was about the B-Boys/Girls, Grafitti, DJ's and MC's. Yet, because most people listen to mainstream, they wouldn't know some of these facts.

View rap like any other genre of music. Most singers can't sing and yet they are showcased in the pop-culture. Same with rap, many can't do it but they get the exposure nevertheless. Whether it's agreed or disagreed, there is no debating, as rap will be forever stamped in music history.
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Old 27 May 2006, 08:13
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I disagree with allot of what you said, sorry. Maybe not the so-called history of it as I have never cared enough at it to research it. But , answer me this, if you will, sir...why do you think the word RAP rhymes with crap? Coincidence? I think not.
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Old 27 May 2006, 08:42
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Music debates get old.. fast.

Too many opinionated people thinking they're right and the world is wrong.

Personally, I used to like nothing but br0000tal metal. Pretty much since childhood. Recently though, I've opened my mind a lot more. I can probably name an artist from every genre out there (that I know of) that I like.

Being more open minded with music has helped me out a lot with the band I'm in. But whatever.. as to the original question:

I talk about this quite often. I kind of argue the fact that music that is considered "classic rock" now will be the same bands and music forever. Bands that have happened between all the legendary groups/artists are no where to be heard of right now..

Take a look at things, you know? Pop has died out. Nu-metal has died out. The new "hip" screamo/emo/hardcore/metalcore/whatever genre will be dead soon too. And I can assure myself that none of todays bands will be played on "classic rock" stations when I get older.

Um, does that make sense to anyone? I don't know.. I just got done playing a show, it's really late, so I'm kind of.. out of it a bit?
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Old 27 May 2006, 09:36
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Originally Posted by KTBleeding
Music debates get old.. fast.

Too many opinionated people thinking they're right and the world is wrong.
That's what makes a good debate. It wouldn't be interesting if everyone agreed or didn't stick to their beliefs. It has nothing to do with being right and the whole world wrong. That seems like a pretty shallow statement to me.

/me waits to see if he takes the debate bait. :cross-eyed:
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Old 27 May 2006, 09:46
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Originally Posted by Boofo
I disagree with allot of what you said, sorry. Maybe not the so-called history of it as I have never cared enough at it to research it. But , answer me this, if you will, sir...why do you think the word RAP rhymes with crap? Coincidence? I think not.
Most words rhyme, with the exception of a few like purple and orange. Like with your play of words with "rap", one could also make the claim that "rock" rhymes with "crock" or "cock". I, however, view it as a mere coincidence.

Now considering that rock came from the blues too, it can be reasonably inferred that rock and rap derived from the same musical origin. Both forms of music are rebellious and targets the youth. Is this a coincidence? Factually, no.

While I listen to a lot of jazz, vocal and classical music I grew up heavily influenced in the Hip-Hop culture. I got my exposure when I was in the second grade and it stayed with me throughout the years. Rap was naturally a part of it and it's in my blood.
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Old 27 May 2006, 09:55
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Rap was naturally a part of it and it's in my blood.
Then you need a transfusion fast before it's too late.
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