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Old 20 Jan 2014, 02:18
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Originally Posted by Princeton View Post
It's NEVER as clean cut as you think.

vborg is a free site. Why should we spend our resources on issues that vborg is not part of? Each transaction is from 2 parties (not 3). Keep in mind that vborg is a depository for free vbulletin modifications not a freelance site.

We make our Requests forum available but that is as far as we go.

How would we define "scammers, spammers, and criminals"? There's a lot of grey areas. What is wrong to you may be ok to another.
Well said and I agree 100%. This would require huge resources because it is not just the buyer that gets burned. Many times it is the dev. There are many things to consider here.

Just be careful and find someone trustworthy and be very specific in your instructions. The large majority of devs here are honest and hard working. Don't let the few thief's here tarnish this valuable resource that we call vb.org!
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Old 20 Jan 2014, 05:25
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Whether it is a mod, add-on, template edit or a paid service, it is up to the "consumer" to do his/her homework to make sure they are getting someone reputable.

To expect someone else to do the research and or try to hold someone else responsible from a deal or transaction that you or anyone initiated is ridiculous.

Everyone is told when installing any mod to make a back up of their site, database and what not, why? because v.org is not responsible for any errors that they might cause if you so choose to install that mod.

Same thing with paid services, there is no way we can hold v.org responsible for anything we choose to accept, initiate or install from these forums or allow someone to have access to our forums, database or someone we hire for a service.

If I see 5 people crossing a river successfully, it is up to me to ask them how they did it and what they faced in order to do it. That river's bottom could have changed from the last crossing to mine. I can't rely on past successful crossings and risk my life when I decide to cross, you can bet I will be asking as many questions as possible before I attempt that crossing.

Probably not the best analogy but I am sure you guys get the picture ....
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Old 20 Jan 2014, 17:53
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There is not going to be any change in policy.

We do not get involved in 3rd party disputes, it is up to members to sort out disputes between themselves.
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Old 21 Jan 2014, 13:14
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20 complaints don't mean 20 unique people made a complaint. It means 20 quasi anonymous usernames made a complaint. It could be 20 unique people but it could be 1 really crazy person with a lot of free time.
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Old 21 Jan 2014, 15:25
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Originally Posted by BirdOPrey5 View Post
20 complaints don't mean 20 unique people made a complaint. It means 20 quasi anonymous usernames made a complaint. It could be 20 unique people but it could be 1 really crazy person with a lot of free time.
That's kinda what i was saying. It seemed to strike a nerve too.
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Old 22 Jan 2014, 06:09
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The only way to do it would be to have a form that the client fills in with their request, a coder accepts and posts his price and agreeing to the terms, the money gets paid by the cllient in to an account which is nothing to do with either of them, a sort of escrow, any amendments...etc are noted by and acknowledged by both parties in the same form/thread, when the job is complete/time agreed up both parties acknowledge the original request has come to it's rightful end and the coder hands over the changes from demo to live site or produce a plugin and the money gets paid out of the escrow account.

But then you do need someone willing to mediate and run this kind of thing
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Old 22 Jan 2014, 14:10
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The only way to do it would be to have a form that the client fills in with their request, a coder accepts and posts his price and agreeing to the terms, the money gets paid by the cllient in to an account which is nothing to do with either of them, a sort of escrow, any amendments...etc are noted by and acknowledged by both parties in the same form/thread, when the job is complete/time agreed up both parties acknowledge the original request has come to it's rightful end and the coder hands over the changes from demo to live site or produce a plugin and the money gets paid out of the escrow account.

But then you do need someone willing to mediate and run this kind of thing
And then this would be E-Lance right?
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Old 22 Jan 2014, 15:15
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This is a nice change. Back in the day it was the good old boy system and the mods did what benefited them.
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Old 22 Jan 2014, 16:56
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And then this would be E-Lance right?
Damn you mean a little research and someone could have hired someone that way?
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