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Old 10 Jun 2014, 05:01
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Vbulletin CMs Articles or Thread Promotion to articles

Hey,

I am just curious about how you all utilize the cms. We added some cms pages awhile ago and the idea is to use them with the forums. My question is, is it better to create the forum thread and then promote it to an article or create the articles in the cms and share them to the forum.

I am just trying to get some opinions. There is a great mod here that shows the entire cms article in the forum but with the amount of articles we have it gets confusing and the articles show as regular threads but cannot be edited except through the cms.

I would not even bother doing both and would just stick with the cms but the forums get much more visibility.

Is there an seo duplicate content issue with promoting threads to articles?

Thanks

Feel free to share any other cms tips you have.
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Old 13 Jun 2014, 15:23
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Old 13 Jun 2014, 15:49
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I tried the CMS and the mod you are talking about.
I also heard of duplicate content having some kind of penalty.

I still use the CMS for articles, it is good for that but there are problems with comments and pictures and it isn't really worth the effort.
The integration of CMS and forums is better done manually.
By that I mean the thread that is created by the CMS is better posted in an invisible forum. I believe this is established practice.

What I do now is create the article (turn off comments) and then create a link for comments to another forum that is created by myself. It is much easier for comments to be added, it is more manageable and also negates the duplicate content and the attachment issues.
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Old 13 Jun 2014, 16:08
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Originally Posted by DemOnstar View Post
I tried the CMS and the mod you are talking about.
I also heard of duplicate content having some kind of penalty.

I still use the CMS for articles, it is good for that but there are problems with comments and pictures and it isn't really worth the effort.
The integration of CMS and forums is better done manually.
By that I mean the thread that is created by the CMS is better posted in an invisible forum. I believe this is established practice.

What I do now is create the article (turn off comments) and then create a link for comments to another forum that is created by myself. It is much easier for comments to be added, it is more manageable and also negates the duplicate content and the attachment issues.
Thanks,

I am a little confused about how you do your comments. What do you mean you create a link for the comments to a forum that is created by itself?

Is there any chance of me seeing your system?

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Oh yeah, Regarding the mod that shows the cms article in the forum, I believe it only links the article basically so I do not believe this will have a duplicate content issue. The only issue with this method is that the main post cannot be edited without going into the cms.

Promoting the threads to articles seems more problematic in duplicate content terms but at times this has to be done for certain very popular threads.

I was also thinking of a mod or plug in that would add a meta or something to block those promoted threads from being crawled in the cms page. I have to think about this more though but a simple nofollow meta would block them from being crawled. I am just not sure how to implement it on individual cms articles.
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Old 13 Jun 2014, 16:23
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Better to demonstrate I think.
No problem Rich, have a look here http://www.mightymoiety.com/content.php

Look to the bottom of every article and you will find a link to the manually created forum.
When you arrive at the forum, you will find another link back to the article.

Not sure if it is a good system but it works for me.

Also check here http://www.mightymoiety.com/forumdis...0-Observations for the forum dedicated to article comments.
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Old 13 Jun 2014, 16:28
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Interesting but my site is set up differently. We use the main page as a way to promote certain events, etc


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Now I can create some of these events directly in the cms and then the mod will post them into a forum, I will move them to the forum of my choice but then the issue is that we get some commenting in the cms and others in the forums. The Vbulletin cms is really a very confusing system.
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Old 13 Jun 2014, 16:34
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Originally Posted by RichieBoy67 View Post
The Vbulletin cms is really a very confusing system.
Agreed.
I am thinking that this is the common consensus.

EDIT: BTW, your link doesn't work. I get the favicon but a blankpage.

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Old 13 Jun 2014, 17:04
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Really? Works fine here... what browser are you using?
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I am using Firefox with the link you provided above.
Tried again this morning and still nothing.
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Old 14 Jun 2014, 00:57
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Nobody else seems to be having an issue connecting. The only think I can think of is our security.. when you have time to try again let me know and I will disable some of it just to see.

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Can you check again when you have a second?
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Originally Posted by DemOnstar View Post
I am using Firefox with the link you provided above.
Tried again this morning and still nothing.
You have more trouble than just your site. Link works fine with my firefox.
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Originally Posted by K4GAP View Post
You have more trouble than just your site. Link works fine with my firefox.
I was getting nervours but traffic stats looked normal and no angry emails from anyone saying that can't connect..

Thanks for testing..

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Originally Posted by DemOnstar View Post
I am using Firefox with the link you provided above.
Tried again this morning and still nothing.

Try another browser, perhaps it is an app or something.
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Tried again using Firefox and all seems to be well now.

Perhaps you had a block on Cambodia?
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Not that I'm aware of. I do block tor proxy and some certain hosts and some china ip's.
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I'm not sure what happened but I was just going to respond to a post that is no longer here.

#The mod I was referring to is one of Lynne's so you know it is awesome right off

http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=254333


In reply to some of what you mentioned: I have been doing this for a long time and these questions regarding the cms are really nothing new for me. I just have really never been able to discover the best path to take. I recently started pondering this again because we have been expanding a section in our site called "Pro List" and I wanted to figure out the best way to get this content indexed.

Right now I am just posting most of these Pro List articles directly into the forum and skipping the cms all together. I am using the cms more for bigger articles and announcements that I want displayed onto the main page.

I would really like to use the cms more for these articles but the fact is they are easily accessible and viewable when listed as sub forums and I have come to the conclusion that having these articles in both places is a little to cumbersome for the most part.

I have also not seen any evidence that promoting threads to articles causes any kind of an impact on seo but then again this is something very hard to know because an impact would happen slowly and not at once.

Thanks for the replies!
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