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Old 15 Apr 2006, 19:49
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Unhappy Very Upset :(

I've been installing your hacks and everytime I do this, my default skin turns into a nitemare and now after the marquee install, NONE of my skins are are working, but two.

I have no idea why this is happening, but if I ask for help on an installation, I never get any. I am constantly waiting for help, but no one replies unless I PM someone.

I'm very unsatisified and I suppose that since I don't know how to code or I'm not one of your peers, am I not a worthwile individual in your eyes to be assisted?

I have an administrator that understands PHP and these things very well, but he's in school now and I'm without any help. I guess that's my own problem too, but I thought I was supposed to get technical help when I purchased vBulletin?

Heck, I don't even know if I'm posting this in the proper area.
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Old 15 Apr 2006, 19:54
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You only get technical help for unhacked boards, from vBulletin Support. This is a vBulletin resource, and nothing here is supported by the vBulletin Support staff. It's up to the author of the hack whether he supports his/her hack or not; that's if he ticked the "Supported" box. If he didn't, then some times others will help you out. If no one helps you out, then I suppose your stuck and you either have someone else figure it out, learn how to figure it out yourself, or remove the hack.
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Old 15 Apr 2006, 20:00
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If you dont know what your doing... Then you should not add/edit anything without your board admin that knows the basics of the code.
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Old 15 Apr 2006, 20:27
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Originally Posted by Daniel
You only get technical help for unhacked boards, from vBulletin Support. This is a vBulletin resource, and nothing here is supported by the vBulletin Support staff. It's up to the author of the hack whether he supports his/her hack or not; that's if he ticked the "Supported" box. If he didn't, then some times others will help you out. If no one helps you out, then I suppose your stuck and you either have someone else figure it out, learn how to figure it out yourself, or remove the hack.
Thanks, that helped a lot. I did install the mood collection with no problem and one other skin without any problems to my default skin.

I find most if not all of these hacks really easy to read and install, but it's after I install them, that's when I have the problem.

I know I'm very articulate when I read and install these hacks.

How come some of them install correctly and don't affect my default skin, while the others did?

Originally Posted by chatbum
If you dont know what your doing... Then you should not add/edit anything without your board admin that knows the basics of the code.
While I appreciate your thoughts and advise, there are some that don't know anything like myself and don't have any problems ~ so, I'm basically concerned as to why these incidents occur some of the time, but not all of the time.

BTW ~ after I tried to install another skin and things went awry, my administrator told me that there must be a bug in vBulletin ~ could this be possible?
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Old 15 Apr 2006, 20:40
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Originally Posted by yumyumcat
Thanks, that helped a lot. I did install the mood collection with no problem and one other skin without any problems to my default skin.

I find most if not all of these hacks really easy to read and install, but it's after I install them, that's when I have the problem.

I know I'm very articulate when I read and install these hacks.

How come some of them install correctly and don't affect my default skin, while the others did?

While I appreciate your thoughts and advise, there are some that don't know anything like myself and don't have any problems ~ so, I'm basically concerned as to why these incidents occur some of the time, but not all of the time.

BTW ~ after I tried to install another skin and things went awry, my administrator told me that there must be a bug in vBulletin ~ could this be possible?
No, it's very rare that your problems are due to a bug in vbulletin. Your problems can be due to a number of reasons:

1.) Your installing the hacks you are having trouble with incorrectly. This isn't uncommon, and can happen just by making a single mistake on a template edit.

2.) The hack has something wrong with it. If you look at the hack thread and see people reporting the same problems you are having, then this is probably the case. If the author is actively supporting the hack, then he/she will fix the bug when the time comes.

3.) Itmay be your skin that you have installed on your board. If you skin has enough customizations to it, installing some hacks may be difficult with certain template edits.

Also, as stated already, vBulletin has no connection to Third party hacks provided here. If you experience any problems with the hack it's up to the hack author (Only if he is supporting the hack) to help you. If the author chooses not to support a hack, then it's up to you to find the solution to your problem or someone else may be able to help you in the hack thread.

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Old 16 Apr 2006, 07:19
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I suggest you look through the tutorial and how to forums to get some better ideas of installing hacks and why things might go wrong.
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Old 16 Apr 2006, 07:51
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I suggest taking the time to learn instead of blaming Vb..... Verify, Verify, Verify. It's like when you buy a new car and decide to add a new feature... Should I, shouldn't I...? You get excited and add it yourself and mess it up... who's fault is that? Well my dear it's yours I'm sorry to say if you mess up somethnig that was working correctly and proven to work as listed then download it again and In-install.... no one to blame but yourself...
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Old 16 Apr 2006, 08:01
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I suggest taking the time to learn instead of blaming Vb..... Verify, Verify, Verify. It's like when you buy a new car and decide to add a new feature... Should I, shouldn't I...? You get excited and add it yourself and mess it up... who's fault is that? Well my dear it's yours I'm sorry to say if you mess up somethnig that was working correctly and proven to work as listed then download it again and In-install.... no one to blame but yourself...
First of all, I don't act like some crazed fool that I should pee all over myself and get excited over a hack ~ okay?
I think you just got excited just to post something cruel and useless ~ these other people have given me plenty of good advise and to read your drivel is worthless.

Originally Posted by Danny.VBT
3.) Itmay be your skin that you have installed on your board. If you skin has enough customizations to it, installing some hacks may be difficult with certain template edits.
Ya know, this particular default skin (now it's not my default anymore) almost always gets messed up when I upload a product.

I'm surprised that it didn't mess anything up when I installed the moods or the other skin, but it sure did when I tried to upload a different skin and the marquee ~ Good point.

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Old 16 Apr 2006, 08:15
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I don't know about anyone else but I sometimes get excited over a hack. :classic:

Anyway, the point of it all is that customizing vB is definitely a learning curve. It can be adventurous, enjoyous, frustrating and relaxing all bundled in one. In the end, however, it should leave you feeling positive.
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Old 16 Apr 2006, 08:24
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I'm still a newbie at this too yumy, but I'm learning pretty quickly (helps to have a background in html and other computer stuff). I found early on that most problems with hacks occur not due to VB but more likely due to any styles you have installed. A lot of styles change various templates that get changed again when you add a hack and this leads to problems. One way to go about it is to compare templates in the styles where the hack 'worked' with templates on the styles that don't work and see what the differences are. If you can't figure out what to change, then post here looking for help. Most folks here are more than happy to help and you'll only get a few of the nasty buggers who for whatever reason (makes them feel superior?) have to make a negative reply to every post they see (especially those of us new guys who occasionally ask what to 'them' is a stupid question).

Good luck with your site.
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Old 16 Apr 2006, 08:37
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Originally Posted by Freesteyelz
I don't know about anyone else but I sometimes get excited over a hack. :classic:

Anyway, the point of it all is that customizing vB is definitely a learning curve. It can be adventurous, enjoyous, frustrating and relaxing all bundled in one. In the end, however, it should leave you feeling positive.
Well said, I know a lot and I still get excited about a new hack.
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Old 16 Apr 2006, 08:58
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Infantry, why so hostile? Yumy didn't blame VB she(he?) said:
Originally Posted by yumyumcat
BTW ~ after I tried to install another skin and things went awry, my administrator told me that there must be a bug in vBulletin ~ could this be possible?
:in fact not blaming VB, just asking if it was possible.

I'm not starting a flame, this is my last word on it. I just dislike how folks get all upset when someone new comes around asking a question. The only smack talk in this thread is what you posted yourself (and now mine )

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Old 16 Apr 2006, 09:04
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"why so hostile?" (I've been in debate, is this a tactic? Good luck... LOL) This is me, like it or not. Nothing "hostile" about it... Don't try to make my comments into more than they are. People don't like to hear the truth.

^ chatbum already said it but: If you don't know what you're doing then don't try to do it... AND if you do decide to do it after the fact, don't go blaming others for your mistake..... Not jumping on anyone just saying don't go blaming others if you are the one that did the messing up...
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Old 16 Apr 2006, 10:00
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Originally Posted by Infantrymen
^ if you don't know what you're doing then don't try to do it... AND if you do decide to do it after the fact, don't go blaming others for your mistake..... Not jumping on anyone just saying don't go blaming others if you are the one that did the messing up...
@ Infantrymen:

I've read these posts, Infantrymen, and yumyumcat isn't blaming anyone. What she's doing is voicing her complaint that no one will help her after a simple install causes problems she didn't or couldn't anticipate beforehand. This is not the only new(ish) member who has found out -- the hard way -- that (like the rest of us) she really is on her own if she attempts even a simple modification to customize her board.

This person is obviously frustrated..... to the point that she came here to post about it.... and being so new to vBulletin in the first place, she's understandably confused about what support there is (or isn't) and where it comes from.

My question to you is... exactly how does it help this person (or any other newer members here) for you to tell her off by saying it's her own darned fault for trying something new? Not only do you offer her no helpful advice, whatsoever, but the outright unfriendliness you've shown is appalling.

Originally Posted by yumyumcat
I've been installing your hacks and everytime I do this, my default skin turns into a nitemare and now after the marquee install, NONE of my skins are are working, but two.
@ yumyumcat:

First of all, what skin are you using as your default skin? Did you download it from here..? somewhere else..? is it an adaptation you or your admin have modified yourselves?

Most hacks really don't mess around with the skins we use - except when it comes to content changes needed on the templates. And for those hacks, the author will typically provide the necessary step-by-step html code changes you need to make yourself for the DEFAULT templates you get with your initial install of vBulletin. (This means that if you're using some other skin as your default, there may be a lot of differences between those templates and the original vB versions and those code changes you get from the hack author won't work as well.)

Those of us who wish to use multiple skins AND install various vB hacks do our best to simplify code changes by setting the default vB skin as the default skin for the board, which functions as the PARENT skin. Then, all other skins we want would be installed as a CHILD skin beneath that default.

When you install a hack, make needed template changes to the default template set - only. Then take a look at how the hack displays using other skins. Jot down any glitches you see before going back to the ACP because you'll need to track those down to make adjustments.

Pay attention to the color-coding system in use for the templates (in the ACP). If the template name is shown in white, nothing has changed. If it's yellow, all the code details are determined/applied by the default (parent) skin. You don't need to change anything there, either. You only have to modify templates in child skins when they show up with red names. Those are the templates that were customized for that skin.

To figure out where to begin, you can compare the code contained in whichever template you're working on between the default version of the template and the new skin's version of the same template. By finding out what was changed for the skin, you then know where the problems are that need to be fixed.
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Old 16 Apr 2006, 10:06
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I have no idea why this is happening, but if I ask for help on an installation, I never get any. I am constantly waiting for help, but no one replies unless I PM someone.

I'm very unsatisified and I suppose that since I don't know how to code or I'm not one of your peers, am I not a worthwile individual in your eyes to be assisted?
Yep, you're right.It's our fault for not being more understanding when these kinds of people don't give anyone a chance in the first place. You're right, I'll move on. Thank you, better you get spit in your face before you've even tried to help than me.

Have a lovely night.
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