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Old 17 May 2006, 23:00
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Originally Posted by Corriewf
How about giving vBCast is own forum like what was agreed on by all the staff here except the one person that ran their mouth to add fuel to the fire, Zach.


We didn't want to start doing BBCast and talk about all the bulletin softwares, as we prefer vbulletin, but after being dragged through the dirt for so long.

I love how we were told to start our own board for a show that is dedicated to your software that we work sooo hard on.
Hmmm.... I think the reason Zachery is rather not happy with you is because that time you called him and impersonated ME and tried to get vBulletin 3.6.x information out of him. I think that's very immature and not worth you getting anything really from Jelsoft.
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Old 17 May 2006, 23:02
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I remember hearing about that. teehee
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Old 17 May 2006, 23:06
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Thanks for the update. I look forward on seeing things return to normal.
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Old 18 May 2006, 02:09
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Originally Posted by joeychgo
Marco - Wayne - The tone and attitude in your posts is a big part of what I think is the problem around here. You just told Noppid to keep his opinions to himself because it doesnt fit in what you want to accomplish.
I said if he was that unhappy, then maybe he should look elsewhere. If there had been a suggestion in his post instead of a personal attack then I would listen.

I honestly don't have any problem with him or anyone else on this site. If something happens, it is not done for personal reasons.
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Old 18 May 2006, 02:45
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I've tried to help out those that I can. and even tho I've used vb almost 2 years now I still don't know 1/2 of what some of the coders know..

all I know is that I'm very appreciative of this site and its resources..

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Old 18 May 2006, 03:58
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Thanks for the post, hopefully you'll actually bring substantial changes,
cause it's no longer possible to peacefully reside on this site.
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Old 19 May 2006, 05:20
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this can be solved if everyone just unzipped their pants, got a ruler and took a picture, then we'd all know who is the biggest prick hehe
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Old 19 May 2006, 06:35
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Thanks for saying that Wayne, this site is all about members helping members and that is what a lot of people around here seem to have forgotten.

I said in a previous post (Erwin stepping down) that I have not posted because I did not want to add oil to the flames, there seemed to be no point because the people involved seemed to have forgotten that one fact, that we are a group of people (all of use vB admins) that have come together to help each other out.

One of the reasons I participate here and give a little back too is because of the amount of help and knowledge I have gotten from this site, I only ever use the official site for my updates or occationally to help out a little.

For a while now, things have been spiralling out of control, and fingers are pointing everywhere. What we should be doing in my opinion is seeing what needs to be done to fix it and just fix it, recriminations and fingerpointing do not help at all, we all know what the situation is, what we need to do if fix the problems, and hopefully what Wayne and the staff here have said are followed by positive actions to rectifiy the problems here.

It really should not have gotten to the stage where coders are removing modifications and admins are stepping down, but saying that we need to move forward and do so positively.

I think the finger pointing has had it's day and I for one am fed up of it, we need to move forward from it and get on with making this site what it was a couple of years ago, a place where members help members, and not members demanding things and thinking it is their god given right to have them straight away is also an attitude I would like us all to move away from too.

If a member helps you out, it common courtesy to thank them for the effort they put into helping you out. Also remember if a hack author supports his hack or not the choice is up to them, they have gone to a lot of effort to give to you in the first place, asking nicely for support will get a better response than demanding support and being rude about it.

Conversely, hack authors should not be rude or put down members because they don't know what they are doing (remember we were all newbies once, and not all of us can code), I know it can get frustrating but blowing of members who require help does not help maintain a healthy attitude on these forums and we are here after all to help members out, are we not??? (as well as getting helped out ourselves and forming new friendships and associations).

I think I have used up more than my 2c worth, but have hopefully put me view across on how this forum has nearly lost it primary focus, and that is to help members help themselves and others.
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Old 21 May 2006, 03:29
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I have seen some things go on here that I certainly do not agree with by staff and by users. The vB.org/JelSoft team seems to be in here getting things changed. The only people getting hurt now are the people that utilize the modifications here that are being pulled as well as those that have (until now) had a very good outlook on this site and those that are now stirring up more trouble.

Let the process work. Don't be hasty and remove hacks unnecessarily. If you have a problem with how things have happened in the past, PM the issues to the respective persons, but don't rehash problems that have already outlasted their original reason. You will only be doing yourself continued disservice to your own respectability... whether it be staff or otherwise.

(... now I wait for the flames... Bar-B-Que anyone?)
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Old 21 May 2006, 06:10
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Being a somewhat... challenged PHP user, the help that the community provides myself and others with is what keeps us coming again and again. I complete agree with you Wayne -- and appreciate the update. I'm sure I speak for the rest of the community when I say that we eagerly await the brand-spanking new vB.org.
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Old 21 May 2006, 08:32
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Just wanted to put in my 2c piece and say that with any community of this size you are going to have problems. Tell me who doesn't. How you deal with them will show just how mature you can be. I am one of those 'newbie php' people and let me tell you I may be blonde but I'm not stupid. I think the master degree and 3 languages I speak qualifies me to have at least a little bit of brain power.

Most members here in the community that doesn't know php or vb or mysql let alone what they stand for look to you guys to help them out and learn. We all have to start somewhere and I for one am grateful for this community and a few others or I wouldn't have VB I'd still have PHPBB. I know a dirty work here. But it's true.

With what I've learned picking, putting, and dismembering these modification to get them to work has really been a huge help and I wanted to say thanks to all the people here that do help out. We have to be adult enough here to find solutions to the problems. Calling each other names and whining just makes people think your a two year old. There is a way for everything to work and with so many 'smart' people it should be no problem finding an answer.

Look up evolution and see what that word means.

Just my 2c and I'm sticking to it.
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Old 21 May 2006, 15:15
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Originally Posted by fewyn
Hmmm.... I think the reason Zachery is rather not happy with you is because that time you called him and impersonated ME and tried to get vBulletin 3.6.x information out of him. I think that's very immature and not worth you getting anything really from Jelsoft.

Why would I want info when I already know whats coming out..... I will no go into details, but I don't need info from him or anyone else.
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Old 21 May 2006, 16:40
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Originally Posted by Corriewf
Why would I want info when I already know whats coming out..... I will no go into details, but I don't need info from him or anyone else.
This wouldn't have anything to do with a 52 gun 4th rate HMS vessel that was put of use in 1862 would it?
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Old 21 May 2006, 18:50
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Wow! I never expected to hear such positive things from vBulletin. The first post in this thread applies to me 100%.

I've removed most of my stuff, and haven't even bothered to post any of my other mods since then, including the highly anticipated Groups mod (yahoo groups functionality). I had first considered releasing that particular mod as source, until one of the vB.org moderators began to attack and insult me for no valid reason, claiming that all my works are copyright infringement, license agreement breaches and more.

It's that same mentality that makes me not want to share my hard work here, and even give up foruming altogether. I've pretty much moved on to Internet Radio, though my station's site uses vB.

In summary, the modifications I've posted here, up to and including abandoned 3.0 hacks i've ported over I've done so without expectation of any compensation and for the good of all vBulletin operators and end-users. If this community were to become more focused and less egocentric, i'd be happy to put my two cents back in the pot.
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Old 22 May 2006, 20:19
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Originally Posted by Dean C
This wouldn't have anything to do with a 52 gun 4th rate HMS vessel that was put of use in 1862 would it?
Don't you mean the 38 gun 5th rate captured from the French in 1811
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