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Old 01 Aug 2005, 13:48
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Yes. Version Numbers can have up to 3 dots, eg. 1.2.3.4
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Old 01 Aug 2005, 14:09
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Thanks Kirby, you should write books for vbulletin.
Yeah, uhm, actually it's a good idea...
Kirby.. How about making a CHM collection of all the HowTO's you've written so far? :P That would be really useful.
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Old 01 Aug 2005, 14:12
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If you could enlighten me what CHM is and how to create that - why not.
Hmm ... I could create a PDF.
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Old 01 Aug 2005, 14:18
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If you could enlighten me what CHM is and how to create that - why not.
Hmm ... I could create a PDF.
CHM is the file extension for Microsoft compressed HTML help files, in the other words it is the standard Windows format for storing help files. There are special software programs that allow you to create those CHM files...

As long as you make a table of contents, a PDF file would also be good. CHM files are usually neater and cleaner though...

This is an example of a CHM manual:
http://us3.php.net/get/php_manual_chm.zip/from/a/mirror
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Old 01 Aug 2005, 14:27
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I thought the standard Windows Helpfile-Format was .hlp?
As this is what I ship my Applications with ...

Anyway, I think PDF would be better then a "proprietary" Format that doesn't work on all Platforms.
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Old 01 Aug 2005, 14:38
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I thought the standard Windows Helpfile-Format was .hlp?
As this is what I ship my Applications with ...
A HLP format is old and generally deprecated. Read about it here:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...html/ch13g.asp

Concerning platform compatibility: In Windows it is integrated, Linux has KchmViewer, Macintosh X a CHMViewer1.1... I am sure other major platforms also have a viewer for such a common filetype, otherwise it wouldn't be used in so many eBooks.

P.S. I just looked in the HowTo forum, and discovered that there are also HowTo's by other authors. Therefore, in your compilation, could you please include these other HowTo's as well? Thanks
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Old 01 Aug 2005, 14:40
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pdf is balls, Adobe is a bloated program when it just comes to reading pdf's. Also, it's very hard (I havent discovered how to) copy/paste something from a .pdf.
I'd like to see in chm too, that way I could even integrate it into Dreamweaver
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Old 01 Aug 2005, 14:43
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Sorry, no CHM from me.
And with this post I am also denying anybody else the right to pack my How-TOs into a CHM.

But I might do a PDF
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Old 01 Aug 2005, 14:47
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And with this post I am also denying anybody else the right to pack my How-TOs into a CHM.
Ah.. I see. I was just going to ask you about it
What's the reason for the denying, if not a secret?
Revan is right - Adobe Viewer for PDF is too bloated..
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Old 01 Aug 2005, 14:49
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Reason = I don't like MS too much
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Old 01 Aug 2005, 14:52
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Reason = I don't like MS too much
Jeez...
Anyway, how about this: make two versions, a PDF and a CHM, to satisfy both those who like and those who dislike MS. Please thanks
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Old 01 Aug 2005, 18:15
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Originally Posted by KirbyDE
Reason = I don't like MS too much
That's really anal. That's like saying "I refuse to zip my hacks because I hate the WinZip program. I am blatantly ignoring the fact that WinRar/WinAce/[insert name of unpacking software for Mac/Linux/Unix] can unpack these files."
Making the How-to's HARDER to use is IMHO completely against the point of making them. I consider this a kick in the nuts to the community. This paragraph (and only this) will be retracted if someone can show me a way to copy/paste from Adobe Reader. I refuse to install any other piece of software to be able to copy/paste from a .pdf document, as I do not feel the need to clutter my computer with crap that will be used 1 or 2 times.
At any rate, see if you can stop me from making CHM files on my own computer (not to distribute).

Now to get back on the actual topic:
Ive learned the hard way that settings have to be volatile for them to be able to export properly, but won't this erase them on upgrade? The code in the xml_import_settings() makes me think that if you are trying to re-import settings that are marked as volatile, it will recreate these settings. This is not a desired effect, so I hope someone can prove me wrong
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Old 01 Aug 2005, 18:29
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Copying from PDF (if copying is permitted): Just use the Text Selection Tool, select the Text and click Edit/Copy.

At any rate, see if you can stop me from making CHM files on my own computer (not to distribute).
Feel free to do that for your own. But as said, I do not allow distributing CHMs.

Volatile Settings will be deleted upon update. However, vBulletin only deletes its own (eg. produvt=vbulletin) Settings.
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Old 01 Aug 2005, 18:55
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That's really anal. That's like saying "I refuse to zip my hacks because I hate the WinZip program. I am blatantly ignoring the fact that WinRar/WinAce/[insert name of unpacking software for Mac/Linux/Unix] can unpack these files."
Making the How-to's HARDER to use is IMHO completely against the point of making them. I consider this a kick in the nuts to the community. This paragraph (and only this) will be retracted if someone can show me a way to copy/paste from Adobe Reader. I refuse to install any other piece of software to be able to copy/paste from a .pdf document, as I do not feel the need to clutter my computer with crap that will be used 1 or 2 times.
At any rate, see if you can stop me from making CHM files on my own computer (not to distribute).
I agree. "Reason = I dont like MS" is a very lame statememnt...

Copying from PDF (if copying is permitted): Just use the Text Selection Tool, select the Text and click Edit/Copy.
That means I have to install Adobe PDF Editor, which is a bloated program that takes up a lot of space in my computer, and that is the reason why I do not have it installed. I'd rather just read the HowTo's from this site rather than from a PDF file...

Oh. And how can you restrict distrubting the CHM's? It's not like it is a copyrighted material. As long as your name is stated - there is no reason behind not distributing them, as well as there is no way you can "not allow it"...
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Old 01 Aug 2005, 19:00
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That means I have to install Adobe PDF Editor, which is a bloated program that takes up a lot of space in my computer, and that is the reason why I do not have it installed.
No, just Arcobat Reader.

You don't like PDF, I don't like CHM and therefor I just don't support it.
So where is the Problem?

You can read the How-TOs here, build a CHM on your own or use the PDF (when there is one, which currently isn't the case anyway).

And how can you restrict distrubting the CHM's? It's not like it is a copyrighted material. As long as your name is stated - there is no reason behind not distributing them...
It is copyrighted material. Everything one writes is automatically copyrighted if not stated otherwise.
(Although this might not always be the case considering general small talk and german copyright laws).

But if you feel happy, I can explicitly point this out too.

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