[TheInsaneManiac]

Originally Posted by In Omnibus

Meanwhile, this site does virtually nothing for customers of the product they do currently sell. So, why should they keep it up and running? You tell me.

Because there is a vBulletin 5 section that offers paid custom work and a free section as well. Given it's very limited in development, it's still there to keep the promise of 3rd party support.

Originally Posted by Panzer Max

Loyalty to their customers? Past and present.

We bought the product vB made (3). We like it, we use it and we paid for it (twice). We do not like the new product (5), it is not what we want. If a company is struggling, making the product their customers want is the first thing they should examine.

I believe they can't be doing that bad in sales or they would already be developing something else. I do not like vB5 either, but there are some who do. I've seen some communities start developing Reddit type forums. All depends on taste and what the consumer wants. They want to focus on their newer software, I can understand it. They even released security fixes after EOL. I'd like to see anyone go to Apple and ask them to patch a security flaw in an iPhone 1G.

[gsk8]

Originally Posted by Paul M

As always, sites can be worked on and updated privately, and I may at some point offer a private upgrade service.

Good to hear!

Just saw that Real IP Detection is withdrawn with a note "For vBulletin 4.2.x please use the built in reverse proxy detection." Where do I find this?

[Greek76]

What a shame.. Vb4 was the best of the best. I'm sure just like me many still use this version and would be great to bring it back to life..

[Panzer Max]

Originally Posted by Paul M

This is old news, all work on vB3 and vB4 stopped when I left.

I have my own working versions (3.8.12 & 4.2.6) that support PHP 7.2.
They are untested, other than my own private testing, but should work fine.

As noted, these are not "official" as I no longer work at IB, and could not be released publicly (unless by some miracle they decided to allow it).

As always, sites can be worked on and updated privately, and I may at some point offer a private upgrade service.

I tried to throw money at him to assist but he said he's done with vb.

[Hostboard]

Originally Posted by Panzer Max

I tried to throw money at him to assist but he said he's done with vb.

What are you trying to do? There are many who have VB 4 running under PHP 7.4.x You do not need a vBulletin developer to achieve this, but only someone with knowledge of PHP itself.

[Panzer Max]

Originally Posted by Hostboard

What are you trying to do? There are many who have VB 4 running under PHP 7.4.x You do not need a vBulletin developer to achieve this, but only someone with knowledge of PHP itself.

We were going to hire him to assist with the upgrade to 3.8.14, help ensure the Downloads II mod continued to work.

[Hostboard]

The VB 3.x in the wild that is re-coded to work with PH 7.4.x is really no fuss, no muss. As for the modification, you just need a PHP developer. They do not need to know anything about VB as the code works, just a few PHP calls will need to be adjusted. Plus if you can access your PHP log files, the code will be pin pointed down to the line.

[lange]

Originally Posted by Hostboard

... Plus if you can access your PHP log files, the code will be pin pointed down to the line.

Right

and for the products, this mod is very useful : https://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=265982 (version 3)

Searching for errors with Google also helps

[Panzer Max]

Originally Posted by Hostboard

The VB 3.x in the wild that is re-coded to work with PH 7.4.x is really no fuss, no muss. As for the modification, you just need a PHP developer. They do not need to know anything about VB as the code works, just a few PHP calls will need to be adjusted. Plus if you can access your PHP log files, the code will be pin pointed down to the line.

Thanks, that is heartening to hear.

Yes, we were able to secure a capable PHP dev/vB expert for some work on our system. Like a lot of vB3 holdouts, I am quite willing to pay well for the work. I wish there was a way to share the end results with other vB users.

For example, we were able to get Downloads II working with 3.8.11, it would be sweet if the work could be captured as an "update" for Downloads II. Maybe that requires additional work, to make the changes into an upgrade... but I would be more than happy to help with that too. Then the Downloads II thread could include a "take it or leave it" upgrade add-on.

Does that makes any sense?