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Old 14 May 2014, 19:40
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Google falls foul of European Courts

The European court of human rights have declared that Google is not outside the law, at least not in EU, the decision which could end up affecting the whole of Google across the world means that they now have have to remove "non-relevant links" to an individual, they have up until now refused to do it.


A Spanish man who went through financial difficulties in the late 1990's claimed that when his name was Googled, the top ranking article was a small piece about him having property repossessed in 1998, he claimed in the court that the information was no longer relevant, as he was now solvent. The Court agreed and have told Google to break all links it has to the article.

The Court also said that "for too long Google has said that it is not a media company, so does not fall in the category of "right to privacy legislation" in Europe, the Court maintains that Google is a media company, and has responsibility to negate non-relevant information about a private persons past.
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Old 14 May 2014, 20:18
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That sounds like some bullshit to me. Its a page on the internet. If he wants that page taken down, he should request the article be taken down from that website. Not unlinked from google.

Because tomorrow 30 other search engines will still have that data.
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Old 14 May 2014, 21:05
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That sounds like some bullshit to me. Its a page on the internet. If he wants that page taken down, he should request the article be taken down from that website. Not unlinked from google.

Because tomorrow 30 other search engines will still have that data.
I can assure you the BBC do not broadcast bullshit, and whilst the court could not order the original site to take down the article, they can make Google take down the links, and according to the BBC, the article is already sliding down the page, when it was always No1 in the search terms.
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Old 14 May 2014, 22:01
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..whilst the court could not order the original site to take down the article, they can make Google take down the links ..
How is a european court going to force Google to do anything ?

The idiot has drawn far more attention to the page he wanted to forget than google could ever have done.
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Old 14 May 2014, 22:06
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How is a european court going to force Google to do anything ?

The idiot has drawn far more attention to the page he wanted to forget than google could ever have done.
This case was brought against Google UK, which Google said it did not have any control over, what the court ruled was that Google cannot sit in it's ivory tower in California and claim to have no control over what it's UK and other World subsidiaries are doing.
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Old 14 May 2014, 22:11
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I believe the courts ruling is bullshit
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Old 14 May 2014, 22:58
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How is a european court going to force Google to do anything ?

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By levelling extreme fines if they do not comply with the request. Google is out of control and is the worst thing to ever come out of the Internet. The sooner they are put in their place, the better it will be for everyone. Then the EU can start working on Apple.
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Old 14 May 2014, 23:18
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I believe the courts ruling is bullshit

You can send your thoughts to :

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I am sure they will welcome your input
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Old 15 May 2014, 00:17
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That sounds like some bullshit to me. Its a page on the internet. If he wants that page taken down, he should request the article be taken down from that website. Not unlinked from google.

Because tomorrow 30 other search engines will still have that data.
30 other search engines that nobody uses.
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Old 15 May 2014, 00:17
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That doesn't change the fact you'd still be able to find the page, if you wanted to.
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I hope Google cuts off the EU from all services until they change the bullshit ruling.

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Old 15 May 2014, 16:25
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Originally Posted by BirdOPrey5 View Post
I hope Google cuts off the EU from all services until they change the bullshit ruling.

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Lets say ten years ago (this is the period we are talking) you were a bit down on your luck, between jobs like we say in the UK, and you had your house re-possessed, and you local newspaper reported it, as a by-line, a one paragraph piece in the depths of the paper.

Now ten years later, when you have paid back all you owe, and your credit rating is clean, you apply for a mortgage, and just out of interest, the loan manager Googles your name, and this piece of information is top of the page, and because of it, he decides not to give you another mortgage, would you consider that fair? the information is no longer relevant, the debt has been paid, and the poor credit rating time has been served.

So why should something that happened ten years ago, affect the decisions of today ?

More and more prospective employers, banks and other financial industries are turning to the net to find out about people.

What the European Courts are saying is that Google has a duty to ensure that the information available is relevant to today.

--------------- Added 15 May 2014 at 16:26 ---------------

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That doesn't change the fact you'd still be able to find the page, if you wanted to.
You probably could, and the courts have said that they cannot force the paper to take the page down, as that would infringe freedom of the press.

--------------- Added 15 May 2014 at 16:28 ---------------

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How is a european court going to force Google to do anything ?

The idiot has drawn far more attention to the page he wanted to forget than google could ever have done.
Because if Google UK doesn't obey the European Courts ruling, it can be held in contempt of court, which could lead to the directors/owners being arrested and tried for contempt of court.
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Old 15 May 2014, 17:51
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Now ten years later, when you have paid back all you owe, and your credit rating is clean, you apply for a mortgage, and just out of interest, the loan manager Googles your name, and this piece of information is top of the page, and because of it, he decides not to give you another mortgage, would you consider that fair?
Thats just hypothetical nonsense. You may as well worry about him getting hit by lightning.
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I hope Google cuts off the EU from all services until they change the bullshit ruling.

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Old 15 May 2014, 18:59
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You probably could, and the courts have said that they cannot force the paper to take the page down, as that would infringe freedom of the press.


So its okay to have the article printed, and findable, just not via google? What sort of side show is this rulling?
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