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Old 25 Apr 2005, 17:20
spence2 spence2 is offline
 
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Lightbulb Adopt a hack forum?

Would it be feasible to establish a forum (public or private) for Coders who wish to retain credit for their original code, but who no longer wish to continue upgrading or developing their hack? A forum where other coders could reply via pm to "adopt" their hack? And with mutual consent the second coder be added as a "Supporter / Co-author"?

Please give this some serious consideration as this is a serious suggestion (not a criticism). I love vB.org! And I only wish for it to continue to grow and evolve.

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Old 25 Apr 2005, 18:46
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This is quite a good idea actually.

What would also be nice:
If the supporters/co authors could edit the hack aswell, or atleast the hack info and attachments
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Old 25 Apr 2005, 19:05
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I don't think there is an overwhelming demand for this. If people want to join as a co-author could they not just contact the author privately ?
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Old 25 Apr 2005, 19:43
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While it is a nice idea, it would have to be done in a way such that the original author explicitly gives terms of use for the code and modifications and that they are enforced. Both of those are not likely to happen.
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Old 25 Apr 2005, 19:49
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If the forum was set up like the paid mod section, the negotiations would remain private. That way a the coders could reach a mutual agreement. There would be nothing to enforce because credit for the original work would remain and the person adopting the hack given credit as "support or co-author".

I have every sympathy with coders who for whatever reason decide they are "done" with a particular hack. But, why should their hacks become obsolete when others might be willing to carry on with them?

The present method lacks the ability for these nice people to "hook up".

Dean C, the idea is to give the original coder a way to attract attention to hacks they wish to turn over to someone else ... a way to "bow out" gracefully ... and with the knowledge that their work will be carried on by someone they trust.

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Old 25 Apr 2005, 20:08
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Originally Posted by Dean C
I don't think there is an overwhelming demand for this. If people want to join as a co-author could they not just contact the author privately ?
As a "consumer" of hacks, I would LOVE to see something like this!

It would make me feel all warm and cozy about installing a hack. It would be just, oh so peachy!

Right now, I have to worry if tomorrow the hack author gets hit by a bus, and no one will pick it up.

With such a database, there would be a very clear list of hacks, showing activity, when was last updated... wait... sounds just like sourceforge.net!!! Yeah baby! THAT would be nice.. A sourceforge style DB of mods/hacks with activity level AND the option to contact authors of abandoned codes!
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Old 25 Apr 2005, 20:14
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Whoa, libertate!

I love your enthusiasm ... but, since we're dealing with change here ... let's keep the notion of baby steps in mind so the powers that be don't blow the whole notion out of the water because it's too complex.
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Old 27 Apr 2005, 05:15
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PM the hack author and offer to take over its development.
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Old 27 Apr 2005, 05:33
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Originally Posted by Erwin
PM the hack author and offer to take over its development.
That only works if the author is actually still around.
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Old 27 Apr 2005, 12:48
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Why ask for site feedback when the most anyone ever gets as a response is a defense of the status quo?

Respecfully, Erwin, do you not feel the present system could be improved?
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Old 27 Apr 2005, 13:32
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i would agree with such a forum.. i would be more than happy to see my work taken by a coder i know, because i'm going to quit the community soon, and want the codes to be supported as they are used by some - or at least discussed for other tools..

so if we have this forum, i will post in first and offer my scripts for adoption... but i have to know the guy that will take care of my beasts...
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Old 27 Apr 2005, 13:38
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Originally Posted by spence2
Why ask for site feedback when the most anyone ever gets as a response is a defense of the status quo?

Respecfully, Erwin, do you not feel the present system could be improved?
I dun think it is as much a 'defense' as it is a pretty logicial suggestion/solution.
I mean if I were interested in helping take over the development of a buggy or outdated and unsupported hack, I don't need a forum to do it, I'd just drop a note to the hack author to check if its alright to take over the development.
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Old 27 Apr 2005, 13:46
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problem with "contacting" the author, is that we don't always have the availability of a coder when he quit the community...

a forum like this would speed up the process: example:

i'm quitting in 4 weeks (may 22th) and i know my codes are needed... i simply have to drop a note in the adoption forum, and someone available will take care of my codes...

if i don't have that forum, i have to tag my releases as "unsuported", and make an announce in my sig about the fact...

also, this is not always the case that a coder will be willing to be contacted after some work done, and i see also in the releases some hacks released by non-coders not interested to support the scripts - because these scripts were done in a paid process, etc.. any reason is good.

this would become mostly a dropbox for codes...
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Old 27 Apr 2005, 13:50
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I'd love this. I hate installing a hack (After making sure it has worked for people.) Getting it installed having problems and seeing that the coder as vanished from Earth. Not good...caused me way to many errors. vB.org could write it into the TOS of when you sign-up and force all current members to agree with it.

This would excellent though.
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Old 27 Apr 2005, 14:00
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nah, no TOS.. this is stupid... people here have to agree to the jelsoft license, and when they hack their board, the jelsoft license is broken, so why ask for a TOS...
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