[shaqoneal]

When vBulletin 4 came out back in December '09, there were a lot of compliants of how it's not as good as vBulletin 3.8. Well, it's been over a year now.


In your opinion, is vBulletin 3.8 still better than vBulletin 4?

[mccollin]

It is for me... I love the look and feel of vBulletin 4 vs. the dated look of vBulletin 3, and the CMS is something I've been wanting for a long time. Its not perfect, and it will only get better... but I'm all in on it and loving it.

[rob01]

not really, many good mods got lost forever... :S

[mccollin]

Originally Posted by rob01

not really, many good mods got lost forever... :S

Thats true, but there are also mods that get lost in point releases because of developers that lose interest. The best part about vB4 for me is that the CMS eliminated 90% of my mods that I considered critical and made them part of the product. Any other mod I can live without.

[Alfa1]

With 1000 bugs, and little functionality improvement in vb4 I see no reason to upgrade.
If the CMS gets fixed up that may change though.

[tocheli]

i am running two homepages, one with vb 4.1 and one with vb 3.8.

4.0 pro's:
- cms
- editor
- blog (categories, image blacement in blog)

4.0 con's:
- handling is not intuitive. some links & options are bad placed and not intuitive! many of my visitors have problems to use the features. many of my visitors have problems to use the forum features. still 4.0 is not really useable fore many users like old peoble ore internet amateurs...
- to many bugs!

my resume: i still do not upgrade my 3.8 installation, even if a have the 4.0 licence.

[Jaffery]

Look has improved but code is mess, looks like the one who handles the look parts of vb4 had nothing to do with efficiency.

[mccollin]

Do you guys have some specific examples of what features in vb4 you find so hard to use? The average forum member does only a few things... they post new threads, they reply to threads, and they search. I've migrated two forums to vb4 and haven't had any complaints about someone not knowing how to use it so far. The moderator functions are a little different, but that Delete Post as Spam function is pretty cool and my mods are liking that. The forum works. The CMS works. I'm not getting what all the negative hoopla is about. I must be missing something.

[MarkBeeson]

My members love vb4. No issues here.
I do have like 12 mods installed but that's fine. I usually always have alot of mods installed. ;]

[worried]

Originally Posted by mccollin

Do you guys have some specific examples of what features in vb4 you find so hard to use? The average forum member does only a few things... they post new threads, they reply to threads, and they search. I've migrated two forums to vb4 and haven't had any complaints about someone not knowing how to use it so far. The moderator functions are a little different, but that Delete Post as Spam function is pretty cool and my mods are liking that. The forum works. The CMS works. I'm not getting what all the negative hoopla is about. I must be missing something.

The enhanced picture uploader. Members, including myself were confused by it. I posted a tutorial but that's confusing as well with all the arrows and numbers explaining how it's used. The old uploader serves our purpose.

[metalguy639]

Originally Posted by Alfa1

With 1000 bugs, and little functionality improvement in vb4 I see no reason to upgrade.
If the CMS gets fixed up that may change though.

Agreed 100%. To answer the original poster's question....No.

[Eruantien]

4.0 was been somewhat of a mess for me. I realize my experience may vary from others, but it has been a nightmare managing my site and trying to sort through countless bugs to get rudimentary functionality. I am now searching for a reason why I can't upload images via the CMS to articles. It takes a ridiculous amount of time to fix these small issues.

[conradk]

I agree that Attachment and Album/Gallery stinks. My users have mostly given up. Album handling is terrible. Needs much better pic display features.

The forum is slower than 3.8 and uses more memory/bandwidth. Page loading is slower overall.
Search is inconsistent and mostly unusable.

BUT it is mostly stable now and is what developers are working on.
And I feel like there are fewer security issue/updates.

My approach is to stay a few versions behind now to see what happens, and wait to see what mods are updated.
We're currently running 4.0.8 (just updated).

[shaqoneal]

thanks so much for your feedback. I will stick with 3.8 then and maybe for years to come.

[mccollin]

I'm actually glad in one sense that some of you are writing it off. It will create some differentiation for those who have 3.8 vs. those with 4.x. I hope my competitors decide not to upgrade, quite frankly. I'm actually quite pleased with my site right now. I have gotten rid of a bunch of custom stuff because of the CMS and its working very well for me. The whole site looks fresh and new, and it was minimal work to get it that way. And the more I get into the CSS, the easier I'm finding it to tweak things the way I want.

The biggest improvement I'd like to see is that they integrate the integrate the widgets, forum blocks, and blog sidebar blocks so that its all one architecture. And, I'd like to see more ad management places for articles to be placed, OR, a simple way to drop in your own placement locations into templates, but still manage them via the ad management tool.

But I can certainly work around both of these for now.

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