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Old 03 Mar 2013, 14:05
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Originally Posted by BSMedia View Post
A win for XenForo, not hardly. IB accomplished what it set out to do. It's destroyed the script, the community, any chance of XenForo being successful ever again.
Really? Last time I checked xenforo is still standing and by the looks of it, still very successful despite everything. All the lawsuit did was slow xenforo down, but failed to destroy it.

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Well I figured out what the BS in BSMedia stands for.
Ahahahahaa, couldn''t help but lol very hard at this
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Old 03 Mar 2013, 14:20
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Ahahahahaa, couldn''t help but lol very hard at this
It made me smile as well.
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Old 04 Mar 2013, 03:14
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I am happy it's now over and the xenforo guys can start to develop their software more.
From reading xenforo this case never slowed down their sales too much, many people were still buying and using it.

I have waited to see what happened, now I will go ahead and buy a licence and start to use it.
It is great software and it blows away vb5 for sure.
I love vb4 and hope that xenforo will be just as good if not better.

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Old 05 Mar 2013, 17:58
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From reading xenforo this case never slowed down their sales too much, many people were still buying and using it.
Have to disagree there; many of our clients cited their reason for not transferring to XenForo was the uncertainty surrounding the litigation.
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Old 16 Mar 2013, 01:15
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These are my last days with VB. I did not buy a VB5 license, I bought Xenforo license - Around 7 years I was loyal to VB. Its just lost its way, very poor products, lack of meaningful innovation.

That said, I really hope Vbulletin survives. I have great memories of using Vbulletin, especially the 3.x series !! Times have changed though
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Old 09 Apr 2013, 06:27
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Originally Posted by BSMedia View Post
Oh Xenforo fanatic logic.

Lets summarize your thought process.

IB doesn't have a case, judge knows IB doesn't have a case.
Judge lets case go on for almost 3 years
Judge wants parties to settle rather than have a trial, or throw out the case altogether knowing there is no case.
Judge forces a magistrate to get them to a settlement.
Some how this settlement is an automatic win for XenForo?

Sounds logical every step of the way.

A win for personal lives of KAM, perhaps. A win for XenForo, not hardly. IB accomplished what it set out to do. It's destroyed the script, the community, any chance of XenForo being successful ever again.

Kudos to IB for the win!
Been over a month since you wrote this, and in that time it has already been demonstrated to be BS (other people already pointed out the aptness of your login name).
The judge wanted the serious claims by IB to be considered properly. That takes time.
Any way you slice it, IB brought the claim, the judge ordered a settlement negotiation with a magistrate, the case ended. IBs claims (both in the US and UK) were dismissed WITH prejudice meaning they can't be refiled.
Ultimately IB made some allegations and those have not been upheld by the court. They didn't even go to trial. Meanwhile Xenforo development has continued with a new maintenance release and 1.2 release announced, the community is thriving and new addons are being published regularly (daily?). Also more people (like us) are announcing plans to migrate to Xenforo or have already done it (e.g. Digital Point, which is not an insignificant site).
I feel your analysis of the situation is demonstrably incorrect.
I think this is even born out by the failure of your forum complaints website to load. Not quite the success you were hoping?
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Old 09 Apr 2013, 13:26
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This lawsuit never made any sense to me. If you're producing quality forum software, who cares what else is on the market? vB should be focused on being the best it can be, not making sure others aren't good.

Competition is awesome. It encourages creativity and diversity. While xF might not be my cup of tea, it certainly seems to be a perfect fit for many others. So what's the problem?

It would be one thing if these guys marched out the door with vB source code and sold it at a lower price. But xF is nothing like vB, visually or functionally. I'm glad the case got dismissed.
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Old 09 Apr 2013, 13:30
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IBs claims (both in the US and UK) were dismissed WITH prejudice meaning they can't be refiled.
ANYTIME a case is settled the case is dismissed WITH prejudice otherwise why would anyone settle if they could just be sued again?

Ultimately IB made some allegations and those have not been upheld by the court. They didn't even go to trial.
Hardly conclusive as nothing can be upheld without a trial.

(e.g. Digital Point, which is not an insignificant site).
Moved before the settlement.

I feel your analysis of the situation is demonstrably incorrect.


FWIW I am personally happy to see XF development resume, but that does not change the facts above.
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Old 14 Apr 2013, 11:15
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Competition is good for business. When you have a competitor pushing out a product that gets your customer base's attention, you better step up your game to keep them. Lawsuits are a waste of time and money. Resources that would be better used in making your product better for your customers and keeping your company competitive.
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