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Old 25 Jun 2006, 23:25
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Easy. vBSEO.
Great support, great community, great product. What more could you ask for?
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Old 26 Jun 2006, 07:12
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vBulletin.org all the way! I would be lost without this site!
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Old 26 Jun 2006, 10:33
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Originally Posted by FASherman
If BotM becomes nothing more than a popularity contest with admins sending out emails as a voting drive, the whole idea can be tossed on the rubbish heap now.
As mentioned before, we will use an updated set of rules for the next round where we will try to make it more a contest with equal chances.

Originally Posted by FASherman
No promoting of any kind should be tolerated and based on that alone, vbHackers should be disqualified - especially if the rules are based on VB.Com which does have a rule prohibiting promotions.
None of our current rules are broken by any of the submitted sites as far as i know, so i see no reason to disqualify anyone.

We have said that we based our rules on the ones at vb.com, we are not using their version, so we can not disqualify someone based on the rules of another site.
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Old 26 Jun 2006, 13:10
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Originally Posted by Marco van Herwaarden
We have said that we based our rules on the ones at vb.com, we are not using their version, so we can not disqualify someone based on the rules of another site.
whats the difference? not that it matters to me, mind you, just seems to me that you are contradicting yourself with that answer.
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Old 27 Jun 2006, 00:41
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Originally Posted by FASherman
Had to go with vBSEO. While I am impressed with vbHackers, the net of it is its still a copycat of VB.Org. All the style and graphics work is lipstick on a bulldog when the concept isn't original. Even the content isn't original. There's a large number of mods there that have also been released here.

If BotM becomes nothing more than a popularity contest with admins sending out emails as a voting drive, the whole idea can be tossed on the rubbish heap now.

No promoting of any kind should be tolerated and based on that alone, vbHackers should be disqualified - especially if the rules are based on VB.Com which does have a rule prohibiting promotions.

Of course, I don't expect that to happen. VB.Org doesn't have that kind of credibility any more. Users are leaving left and right. Webmasters promoting votes for their site are at least driving traffic here and that, I'm betting, is more important than integrity.
While your entitled to your opinion I find your post be both falsely based on assumptions and wrong.

Every site on this list has done exactly what the rules have asked for.

And saying vBH is nothing but a copy of .org is a flat out lie. Why don't we just call vBulletin a copy of UBB with lipstick?
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Old 27 Jun 2006, 22:11
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Originally Posted by rex_b
And saying vBH is nothing but a copy of .org is a flat out lie.
No, its an opinion. When you make the mistake of using words like "lie" and "liar" with Texans, we tend to react in an inhospitable way.

So, you're saying your concept isn't original, your content isn't original but because you've got a nice style a pretty graphics, you aren't a VB.Org copy? :cross-eyed:

If we should ignore content and originally for appearance, you're basically asking to be the Brittany Spears of websites.
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Old 28 Jun 2006, 00:03
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vBHackers.com gets my vote. It looks/feels like the old vB.org, before everything got bad.
Easy to navigate, you find your hacks righaway.
All they need is a 'Help me finish' forum like in the old times...
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Old 28 Jun 2006, 00:14
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Originally Posted by TECK
Easy to navigate, you find your hacks righaway.
I find that statement quite interesting - as far as i can see, they use exactly the same system as here - a single forum with thread prefixes (in fact, they don't seperate 3.5 and 3.6). From a quick look even the thread prefixes look the same.
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Old 28 Jun 2006, 02:53
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Originally Posted by Paul M
I find that statement quite interesting - as far as i can see, they use exactly the same system as here - a single forum with thread prefixes (in fact, they don't seperate 3.5 and 3.6). From a quick look even the thread prefixes look the same.
We must both be lying.

Maybe its just me, but BotM should be more than just looks. Otherwise, its just a style contest. Originality, content, additional features - all of these should be a factor.
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Old 28 Jun 2006, 03:13
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Originally Posted by FASherman
We must both be lying.
My interest is not really about that particular argument, rather that someone thinks that the system there is wonderful, easy to navigate and finds things easily, and at the same time implying that the system here is bad, when infact they are identical (with the exception that vb.org seperates out 3.5 and 3.6 mods). Most curious.
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Old 28 Jun 2006, 04:05
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Let's keep this thread on track.
I opened a new one, related to the above matter:
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=119756
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Old 28 Jun 2006, 04:28
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Its very much on topic. Why does a copycat board with duplicated content deserve top honors be cause of a glitzy style and graphics? How we evaluate is exactly the point.
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Old 28 Jun 2006, 04:39
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You have failed to understand that any community based around the vBulletin code and modifications will have very similar content. No content from this site or any other site has been copied without the sole permission of the original authors. vBHackers.com will never take and release someone else's content, ever! I even created a custom hack for staff members to prevent such a thing from happing.

If you are upset because you see the same hacks and content being published on vBHackers.com as here, then I suggest you take it up with the authors them selfs, not a site that allows them the choice to post there content there or not. From the first day I created that site, the number one rule was never allow someone to release someone elses work there without there permission, any users that broke that rule have been permanently banned from ever posting on our site. No exceptions!
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Old 28 Jun 2006, 08:50
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@All

This is a voting thread, you voice your opinion by the vote you make. Discussions like some people seem to want to have in this thread, don't belong in a contest vote.

Please don't use this thread for having disputes.
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Old 28 Jun 2006, 15:10
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SEO for me, i didnt vote vbhackers because I think all hacks should be localized into vb.org
 



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