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Old 25 Jan 2015, 15:57
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Why vB team didn't continue developing vb 4x?

Hello,

I have a question:
Why vB team don't continue developing vb 4x like adding responsive design and other improvements for it?

while more people are using vb4x then vb developed vb5, it needs time and it doesn't have features (addons, mods..etc) like vb4 did.

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Old 25 Jan 2015, 16:32
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Old 25 Jan 2015, 16:45
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VB4 is in IB's rear view mirror and the further it gets away, the more they like it. (More VB5 sales)
Adding features like responsive styling to VB4 would be costly for IB to do aside from the labor involved, the sales they would lose on VB5 since that is one of the selling points. Since VB4 already has a built-in mobile style, making it responsive wouldn't make sense.
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Old 25 Jan 2015, 17:48
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Why vB team don't continue developing vb 4x like adding responsive design and other improvements for it?
As far as IB Management is concerned, vB4 is an old version, vB5 is the current version - and therefore the only one they will develop.

Its a constant uphill battle for me to get any work done on it - and all they will entertain is occasional fixing of major issues - like php 5.4 problems, php 5.5 issues, and more recently, facebook.

There will not, ever, be any more feature development. It is, infact, only its continued popularity with customers that gets it any time at all.
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Old 25 Jan 2015, 17:49
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Yeah it's a shame Paul.
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Old 25 Jan 2015, 18:04
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I just announced on my forum today that I want everyone to keep an eye open for any bugs and warnings so I can fix them all and then keep error/warning reporting enabled so I can handle any new developments in php, and have an easier time debugging my projects. I want to keep vB for as long as it's supported for vulnerabilities and exploits. Once support is ended we're moving to a different platform. My mind is made up. They've decided to dump us, I'll dump them.

I'm not trying to be snarky or tossing insults. I'm just sayin' ....
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Old 25 Jan 2015, 18:08
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Here is two bugs I just fixed today, http://ozzmodz.com/showthread.php/65...list-Bug-Fixes
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Old 25 Jan 2015, 18:08
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I wish it was possible for us as a community to continue development on vBulletin 4 in some way to add new features, legally.
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Old 25 Jan 2015, 18:10
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There is, that is called a modification.
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Old 25 Jan 2015, 18:12
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There is, that is called a modification.
Well yeah I'm talking about something that will belong to vBulletin 4 officially.
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Old 25 Jan 2015, 18:13
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Well that will never happen, as they still own the rights to it, look at vB2 it is still run on some sites, and even though it's old as heck, it is still not open source.
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Old 25 Jan 2015, 18:20
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I just announced on my forum today that I want everyone to keep an eye open for any bugs and warnings so I can fix them all and then keep error/warning reporting enabled so I can handle any new developments in php, and have an easier time debugging my projects. I want to keep vB for as long as it's supported for vulnerabilities and exploits. Once support is ended we're moving to a different platform. My mind is made up. They've decided to dump us, I'll dump them.

I'm not trying to be snarky or tossing insults. I'm just sayin' ....
I know for sure of one major forum aggregator who's done exactly that. They have something like 40-plus boards, all were vBulletin - they're switching them all away from vB to xF.
VB4 is in IB's rear view mirror and the further it gets away, the more they like it. (More VB5 sales)
None of this is exactly accurate - v4 AND v3.8 are still supported and v4 at least, still comes with the new license you buy.

It was the same way when v4 first came out, you still got the latest v3 with the new license, available for download. And it's been the same way with all prior versions.

There can't be more or less v5 sales based on v4, since v5 is the license you're buying when you do buy a new license. It's always been that way.
Adding features like responsive styling to VB4 would be costly for IB to do aside from the labor involved, the sales they would lose on VB5 since that is one of the selling points. Since VB4 already has a built-in mobile style, making it responsive wouldn't make sense.
Not necessary, alot more than making sense.

Be all that as it may, most of the "new features" touted in v5 are derived from add-ons this community authored, for v4. Therefore none of them are anything new, for those who've been around awhile.
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Old 25 Jan 2015, 18:29
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In my admin forum:

Originally Posted by me
Have any of the other sites you help with tried vB 5 yet? From all I've heard ......
Originally Posted by other admin
There's only one other site I do admin at right now and that ditched VB for InvisionPower a while ago - primarily over concerns about VB5.
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Old 25 Jan 2015, 18:45
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only its continued popularity with customers that gets it any time at all.
Well I guess the customers at least have that
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@Max: You can use every version of the software with your license, even vB2 if you care to. That has no implication whatsoever on whether that version is supported or not. And vB3.8 has been officialy end of life since 4.2 was released. Policy was (and afaik still is): Two .x versions back is officially supported. (4.0 and 4.1, so 4.2 ended 3.8's life).
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