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Old 28 Feb 2009, 12:55
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Law and Order UK Style

Soft on crime, tough on victims

Mrs Harding, who sings in the church choir, remonstrated with them, only to be told in no uncertain terms where to go. When one of the boys called her a 'f****** fatty' she swiped him with some church paperwork she was carrying.

That was enough to get her arrested for assault and dragged before the courts.
Although given an absolute discharge, she now has a criminal record.

Not so long ago, a village bobby would have been on hand to administer a swift clip round the ear.

These days, he'd be alongside Mrs Harding in the dock. Ask Sergeant Bob Woodward.
He was prosecuted for defending himself against a prisoner who tried to head-butt him in the custody suite at Cannock, Staffs.

The case was only dropped when the witness failed to turn up at court, after absconding on another charge of 'glassing' someone in a pub.

Whilst here is a list of recent proceedings at Tameside Magistrates Court, in Greater Manchester.

Phil John Day, 29, was caught in possession of heroin and crack cocaine. Sentence: conditional discharge and 60 costs.

Steven Edward Inglis, 22, guilty of assaulting a woman by beating. Fined 65, with 50 compensation and 75 costs.

The court was reserving its full wrath for master criminal Phillip Brown, who was fined 175 with 155 costs. His heinous crime? Dropping a cigarette butt.

A few months ago Jane Brown from Derby, was fined 400 for leaving a plastic childrens toy on top of her dustbin for collection, she has now a criminal record which will be with her for life, she's only 23, what does that do to her career and her future??

Who says Crime dosn't pay, In this crap society, it certainly does

What was that about 'tough on crime'

Makes you MAD
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Old 28 Feb 2009, 13:25
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let me guess, story from the mail
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Old 28 Feb 2009, 14:47
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let me guess, story from the mail
Correct

makes you mad dosn't it
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Old 28 Feb 2009, 20:45
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let me guess, story from the mail
or google - depends on where u read your news.
The Mail is not the only source and the story does not change from newspaper to newspaper so im unsure why u quoted the mail here.
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Old 28 Feb 2009, 22:34
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or google - depends on where u read your news.
The Mail is not the only source and the story does not change from newspaper to newspaper so im unsure why u quoted the mail here.
Because the Mail would have you believe every Muslim is a fundamentalist, that there are more Eastern Europeans in the country now than British, and that everyone in the country is politically correct. It's an awful tabloid.
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Old 28 Feb 2009, 22:54
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Old 01 Mar 2009, 05:32
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Because the Mail would have you believe every Muslim is a fundamentalist, that there are more Eastern Europeans in the country now than British, and that everyone in the country is politically correct. It's an awful tabloid.
You mean the mail has the balls to tell the truth ?
And everyone in this country is nearly PC.
I also dont need a paper to tell me how f***** up this country is.
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Old 01 Mar 2009, 08:08
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Old 01 Mar 2009, 08:25
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Originally Posted by Dean C View Post
Because the Mail would have you believe every Muslim is a fundamentalist, that there are more Eastern Europeans in the country now than British, and that everyone in the country is politically correct. It's an awful tabloid.
Hi Dean

I'm not quoting anywhere about muslims in my post, but about the facts which are there for all to see.

Phil John Day, 29, was caught in possession of heroin and crack cocaine. Sentence: conditional discharge and 60 costs.

Steven Edward Inglis, 22, guilty of assaulting a woman by beating. Fined 65, with 50 compensation and 75 costs.

The court was reserving its full wrath for master criminal Phillip Brown, who was fined 175 with 155 costs. His heinous crime? Dropping a cigarette butt.

A few months ago Jane Brown from Derby, was fined 400 for leaving a plastic childrens toy on top of her dustbin for collection, she has now a criminal record which will be with her for life, she's only 23, what does that do to her career and her future??
You can see yourself at the courts website, This is whats happening to britain, Normal everyday fold are being treated worst than criminals, How can a bloke who drops a ciggarette butt be punished more than a guy who beats up a woman ??? The UK was never in a position like this 15 years ago

stick to reading the Sun Mate
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Old 01 Mar 2009, 14:36
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i watched a program on tv a few weeks back - Interceptors (the police) and everyone who they caught who had broke the law was only handed a fine or a community service.
One guy took the police on a 4hr chase across different counties in a wagon with a child on board and he only got community service.We cant blame the police because its the courts and the lawmakers that allow these people to go free.
Why do the police bother catching people when the courts just let them go.
Why do the courts bother sentencing people when there simply aint nowhere to send them.
Its the knock on effect - goverment wont build any new jails and criminals are getting away with everything.

Prepare for a summer of discontent if u read todays paper as the army has been put on standby because they predict major roits this summer.What with the economy and middle class families out of work.

Also the human rights act only applies if you human - so that counts out these animals who commit horrendous crimes against their fellow man/woman (pc correctness )
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Old 01 Mar 2009, 15:48
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Originally Posted by lasto View Post
i watched a program on tv a few weeks back - Interceptors (the police) and everyone who they caught who had broke the law was only handed a fine or a community service.
One guy took the police on a 4hr chase across different counties in a wagon with a child on board and he only got community service.We cant blame the police because its the courts and the lawmakers that allow these people to go free.
Why do the police bother catching people when the courts just let them go.
Why do the courts bother sentencing people when there simply aint nowhere to send them.
Its the knock on effect - goverment wont build any new jails and criminals are getting away with everything.

Prepare for a summer of discontent if u read todays paper as the army has been put on standby because they predict major roits this summer.What with the economy and middle class families out of work.

Also the human rights act only applies if you human - so that counts out these animals who commit horrendous crimes against their fellow man/woman (pc correctness )
I saw that program too and was horrified at the punishment these idiots were getting, especially after causing thousands of pounds worth of damage too..

As for the Army on Standby, Welcome to the real word, I can see the revelution coming
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Old 02 Mar 2009, 08:04
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Hi Dean

I'm not quoting anywhere about muslims in my post, but about the facts which are there for all to see.



You can see yourself at the courts website, This is whats happening to britain, Normal everyday fold are being treated worst than criminals, How can a bloke who drops a ciggarette butt be punished more than a guy who beats up a woman ??? The UK was never in a position like this 15 years ago

stick to reading the Sun Mate
Crime has never been proportional to sentencing. This goes back to the earliest days of the criminal system, centuries ago. Remember women were drowned or burnt at the cross for practising witchcraft, yet someone who stole a load of bread from the market would get put in the stocks for days. Is this fair? No. But it's what happens.

We could sit here and argue all day about a justice system where the time fits the crime, but everyone has a different opinion on what time fits what crime There is no such thing as a perfect justice system, as time has shown.
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Old 02 Mar 2009, 17:45
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Originally Posted by Dean C View Post
Crime has never been proportional to sentencing. This goes back to the earliest days of the criminal system, centuries ago. Remember women were drowned or burnt at the cross for practising witchcraft, yet someone who stole a load of bread from the market would get put in the stocks for days. Is this fair? No. But it's what happens.

We could sit here and argue all day about a justice system where the time fits the crime, but everyone has a different opinion on what time fits what crime There is no such thing as a perfect justice system, as time has shown.
Words of wisdom Dean, I agree with you 100%

But lets look at the UK over the past 15 years or so, how things have changed regarding law and order

1. local authorities given the right to snoop under anti terror laws, This has been used from spying on parents over which school to send their kids to criminalising your rubbish collection

2. CCTV cameras, are everywhere now, and your every step is monitored in practically every town and city in the Uk.

3. when blair took office he banned Handguns, this cost the taxpay 53 million pounds to change the law, What did he do, He took Handguns away from Licenced owners, As opposed from the criminals, Result Gun crime escalating out of control, with daily shootings in manachester and nottingham.

4. Changing the age of homosexuals from 18 to 16?? So its OK to do things to children now??? I guess its to stop half of labours MP's from getting arrested.

5. The Human Right act, This is such a nightmare, everyones got rights, Terrorist, Murderers, Someone breaks into your house and nicks your TV, hurts their back taking it to their car, its you that they'll sue, and they'll win

Theres loads more but if we're honest, over the past 15 years we've seen this country going from a Great Britain, to a State Run institute where if you havn't got a criminal record your the odd one out.
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Old 04 Mar 2009, 16:40
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Originally Posted by Dean C View Post
Crime has never been proportional to sentencing. This goes back to the earliest days of the criminal system, centuries ago. Remember women were drowned or burnt at the cross for practising witchcraft, yet someone who stole a load of bread from the market would get put in the stocks for days. Is this fair? No. But it's what happens.

We could sit here and argue all day about a justice system where the time fits the crime, but everyone has a different opinion on what time fits what crime There is no such thing as a perfect justice system, as time has shown.
How about this :

What Justice system - its a joke.

Great Britain - whats so great about it ??? - ive very discontented with my country.
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Old 04 Mar 2009, 16:49
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There is no such thing as a perfect justice system, as time has shown.

And there never will be as long as there is a human element in making the choices.
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