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Old 08 Dec 2012, 06:30
fmgrowit fmgrowit is offline
 
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If spam is so bad, why does google allow it?

We all know google is the almighty being on the internet. What google says...goes...plain and simple. So can someone explain to me how the almighty google doesn't know who is spamming?....especially when the spammers use Gmail.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but this seems way too convenient.

I have the best spam mods installed, but I still spend an hour a day deleting accounts and banning IP's.

This is getting ridiculous.

Can there be any advantage to increase ranking by editing the spam post with your site address? Something just doesn't make sense about this...and I truly believe google itself is benefiting from the spam.

--------------- Added 08 Dec 2012 at 06:36 ---------------

What's even a little more ironic...google won't let me use certain passwords, but "googlesucks" works fine.
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Old 08 Dec 2012, 13:30
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Use cloudflare, I do and for $20 US a month its great. blocks tens of thousands of malicious and spammer ips per month with no config.

what happens is that as you get their ips blocked with clourflare the hackers/spammers after a while stop trying because that ip will be blocked across the entire cloudflare network. My first month had over 100,000 firewall hits, mostly china. The past 30 days I have only seen about 12, 000 hits.

www.cloudflare.com
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Old 09 Dec 2012, 18:03
fmgrowit fmgrowit is offline
 
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I'm not trying to discriminate, but is there any way to block IP's from entire countries? My site doesn't have anything the Chinese would be interested in anyway.

Is there a list of which IP's are assigned to a certain country or region?
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Old 09 Dec 2012, 18:17
Christos Teriakis Christos Teriakis is offline
 
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Originally Posted by fmgrowit View Post
I'm not trying to discriminate, but is there any way to block IP's from entire countries? My site doesn't have anything the Chinese would be interested in anyway.

Is there a list of which IP's are assigned to a certain country or region?
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Old 10 Dec 2012, 03:55
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Originally Posted by fmgrowit View Post
I'm not trying to discriminate, but is there any way to block IP's from entire countries? My site doesn't have anything the Chinese would be interested in anyway.

Is there a list of which IP's are assigned to a certain country or region?
http://www.ipaddresslocation.org/ip_...get_ranges.php

Scroll to the bottom, choose the country you wish to block and choose Deny for prefix. Download the zip and extract the txt file. Copy paste the contents into your .htaccess file on your sever.
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Old 10 Dec 2012, 05:20
camoit camoit is offline
 
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Hay guys.
But I to have seen the increase in Spam over the last 3 months or so. It's all from China. So last night I finally just got fed up with them and banned the hole Asian network I had a problem with. Here is all of the IP address range I banned. It's useless to try to contact them. They were filling up 4 pages of who's on line pages. The bad part it they are people not just bots so there hard to stop. I would ban one and they would turn around and make another user name and email and try to post. But everything would get put in moderation because of the amount of links. The best part is they give you there rang on there web page.
http://www.apnic.net/publications/re...resource-range



JUST BAN THEM ALL: Just copy and past into your acp> Options> User banning




This IP address range is not registered in the ARIN database.
Comment: For details, refer to the APNIC Whois Database via
Comment: WHOIS.APNIC.NET or http://wq.apnic.net/apnic-bin/whois.pl
Comment: ** IMPORTANT NOTE: APNIC is the Regional Internet Registry
Comment: for the Asia Pacific region. APNIC does not operate networks
Comment: using this IP address range and is not able to investigate
Comment: spam or abuse reports relating to these addresses. For more
Comment: help, refer to
http://www.apnic.net/apnic-info/whoi...e-and-spamming
RegDate: 2008-05-27
Updated: 2010-07-30
Ref: http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-112-0-0-0-1




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Old 11 Dec 2012, 02:15
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Originally Posted by ChrisTERiS View Post
China IPs
58.14.0.0/15 58.16.0.0/13 58.24.0.0/15 58.30.0.0/15 ....
.....222.168.0.0/13 222.176.0.0/12 222.192.0.0/11 222.240.0.0/13 222.248.0.0/16 222.249.0.0/17 222.249.128.0/18 222.249.192.0/19 222.249.224.0/20 222.249.240.0/21 222.249.248.0/23
Yeah, I recognize most of those.

Thanks for the help...I just don't have time to spend an hour a day banning IP's...I have to resort to more drastic measures.
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Old 11 Dec 2012, 02:54
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Originally Posted by fmgrowit View Post
We all know google is the almighty being on the internet. What google says...goes...plain and simple. So can someone explain to me how the almighty google doesn't know who is spamming?....especially when the spammers use Gmail.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but this seems way too convenient.

I have the best spam mods installed, but I still spend an hour a day deleting accounts and banning IP's..
You must not have this one yet... Mod of the Month for Dec. 2012:

http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=289463
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Old 11 Dec 2012, 11:52
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I've been using the Question & Answer Verification option for years, and it's extremely rare for a spammer to get through. When one does, I change the question, and I'm usually spam free for 6+ months.

This obviously works better when you know that "all" of your members speak the same language.

They still hammer my site though. Something like 50% of my hits are on the registration page, with china and russia being the worst offenders.
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Old 11 Dec 2012, 14:11
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Brandon Sheley Brandon Sheley is offline
 
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Originally Posted by fmgrowit View Post
I have the best spam mods installed, but I still spend an hour a day deleting accounts and banning IP's.
hmm,, does anyone else see the flaw in this statement?
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Old 11 Dec 2012, 18:10
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If spam is so bad, why does google allow it?
To answer the original question.... Spam IS bad, and google doesn't "allow" it.

It gets through the registration process of gmail the same way it gets on any other site - automated bots that can bypass human verification such as captcha. XRumer comes to mind.
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Old 12 Dec 2012, 01:07
fmgrowit fmgrowit is offline
 
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Originally Posted by Max Taxable View Post
You must not have this one yet... Mod of the Month for Dec. 2012:

http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=289463
Yes, that is the mod that was just installed two weeks ago.

Originally Posted by Brandon Sheley View Post
hmm,, does anyone else see the flaw in this statement?
If there is a better one than is being touted as the best, please share your information.

Originally Posted by Max Taxable View Post
To answer the original question.... Spam IS bad, and google doesn't "allow" it.

It gets through the registration process of gmail the same way it gets on any other site - automated bots that can bypass human verification such as captcha. XRumer comes to mind.
I guess I just find it ironic that a lot of spam email addresses are from Gmail
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Originally Posted by fmgrowit View Post
Yes, that is the mod that was just installed two weeks ago.
If so there shouldn't be any successful autospam registrations.... Unless of course you lowered the time setting? I keep mine at 25 seconds.
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