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Old 21 Feb 2013, 04:30
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Lightbulb vBulletin.org 5.0

OK, bear with me.

vB org is old and tired and it is beyond upgrade to vB5, let alone vB4.

But it is still a huge resource.

Consider this...

vB org currently resolves to vbulletin.org/forum/ as a home page.

Keep it there, ok so far?

On the root though put a fresh cut of vB 5 on it. Put a link in the navbar of vborg5 using the new Nav manager for the "Legacy vBulletin.org", and start building the new vBorg for the vBulletin5.0 modifications after vB5 becomes gold. No it wont have every single feature, but that can be built upon with time. No the old vborg wont be closed, but remain open for legacy users.

Yes, it will get vb org back in this decade and up front.

And as a user community extension of the vb com site, it ought to be brought forward and represent.

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Old 21 Feb 2013, 05:48
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One question, what does vb5 do that the current version used here doesn't do that will greatly enhance what this particular site is all about?

It's clean, functional and is entirely fit for the purpose, everyone who has vbulletin software knows how to use this site and it's not bewildering to newbies, i can see no valid reason to ever make this site "current", it does what it does and does it well
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Old 21 Feb 2013, 08:05
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Even with that suggestion, your still saying, essentially, start building a new vB.org. And the problem is, and always has been, that no one has time to start re-building vB.org. It's not a simple effort, and I very seriously doubt it's something that can be rolled out gradually. The custom coding would have to be rewritten from the ground up. I'm sure when/if they find the time (and I'm also guessing this something that would require more than one person working on), they'll do it, but until then the site works every bit as it should. Rebuilding would mean for a time, that would not be guaranteed.
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Old 21 Feb 2013, 13:48
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I personally would not split my time between 2 vb.org sites, I barely have time for this one.
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Old 21 Feb 2013, 14:31
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Well ok, I guess that pretty much sums it up.

It was mearly a suggestion ya know.

However perfect things seem,... someday it will havta happen. Sooner or later.
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Old 21 Feb 2013, 16:51
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I do think it's an interesting idea and I have thought the same thing before - it would be cool to have vb5 mods shown in vb5 software and vb4 in vb4 software, but trying to write a script to integrate all three sites would be a mess - especially now with the way vb5 uses nodes instead of posts in the database. Paul is skilled, but I think even he would get a headache trying to code this up!
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Old 25 Feb 2013, 03:11
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Well thanks Lynne. Sincerely.

But instead of messing it all up with three different sites and special code,... what I was suggesting is to have the Legacy site where it is at, and start building the new site on root.

VB org is on what 3.6?,,,.. and vB com is getting ready to roll out v5 when it goes gold?... and someday likely 3 or so years,... we will have vB6. etc.

I know BirdOPrey5 can only handle one site to moderate, and I wouldnt expect more than that of anyone here as I know it is work.

And since it is just too much to handle to migrate the current vB org over to 5,..

Why not just make a vB5 instance on the root.

Leaves me with the question of just how long vB org will be supporting legacy products prior to 5. And if they do or dont, how long is vB org going to be running on legacy software but yet representing the new stuff?


Seriously, I really dont care myself. I will always come to vB org for quality third party extensions for my website whether on 3, 4, or 5, or whatever.

My suggestion was only for image and marketing reasons in regards to the vB conglomerate of sites.

Thanks for letting me offer my feedback, as it is.

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Old 25 Feb 2013, 14:35
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There are no current plans to move the site to vB5.

Atm, our efforts are concentrated on vB5 development, and the main vb.com site.
This site runs quite happily as it is, so for the moment at least, its a case of "it aint broke, so dont fix it".
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Old 26 Feb 2013, 15:14
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I know BirdOPrey5 can only handle one site to moderate, and I wouldnt expect more than that of anyone here as I know it is work.
I meant I wouldn't contribute to 2 sites, moderating is easy.
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Old 16 Mar 2013, 11:42
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"it aint broke, so dont fix it".
Best computer philosophy ever.
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Old 16 Mar 2013, 17:35
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"it aint broke, so dont fix it".
Yea I agree with this too.
I'm personally not a big fan of vB5 anyways.
It made the vBulletin.com forum very laggy for me.
All the flash and drop downs and things flying everywhere, I'm not a fan of it.
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Old 17 Mar 2013, 07:16
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Besides it would be a nightmare to have vB 5.0 coded to implement all the customizations of this actual site.
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Old 18 Mar 2013, 16:12
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Generally, I would say "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" is one of the worst all around philosophies for anything, anywhere, ever. But in this case, the addendum would be "and you don't have the time." The site is working and doesn't really have a downside to keeping it the way it is, AND there do not appear to be the appropriate resources (e.g. time) to make such an elaborate transition. So, in this case, I can see where they're coming from.
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Old 18 Mar 2013, 19:32
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Originally Posted by smirkley View Post
OK, bear with me.

vB org is old and tired
Agreed.

Originally Posted by Paul M View Post
There are no current plans to move the site to vB5.

Atm, our efforts are concentrated on vB5 development, and the main vb.com site.
This site runs quite happily as it is, so for the moment at least, its a case of "it aint broke, so dont fix it".
This mentality just kills me. Well not really.

But honestly Paul - What do you think would happen if the bulk of vBulletin customers were to say that? "My site ain't broke, so there's no need to "fix" it to the broken vB-anything-above-3.8.x..."

vBulletin the software would have ceased to exist is what would happen. Anyway... Moving on....

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Old 18 Mar 2013, 19:50
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I agree with "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", but I interpret it less literally to mean "don't make changes unless you understand the costs vs. benefits". If you take it that way, I think we all agree.

Applying that to vbulletin.org, obviously some people are of the opinion that it would be worth the costs to upgrade vbulletin.org. But the people who actually have to pay for it don't feel that way. In the absence of actual data to support the argument, it's just a difference of opinion.
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